I’ve been a lurker for the past few months and am now in the market for a 2019 S4 P+. I’ve sent a few emails to different dealers and received this quote. I’ve asked for the numbers with only first month’s payment down and all fees and taxes rolled into payment. I’ve come across several other posts and know there is room left in this deal. This will be the first car I’ve ever leased and would appreciate any feedback on how to proceed.
$658 MP with $658 DAS for a 2019 S4 actually isn’t a bad initial offer! What I am trying to determine is whether the sell price of 54,400 is before or after your $2500 incentives. I’m inclined to think it’s before since it appears the incentives are offsetting your drive offs, but just confirm that. If so, 10% off is a good start.
Next steps I’d say would be:
Get at least 12% off before incentives (esp to offset that $500 doc fee!)
See if a 39 month lease is cheaper, and if so, do it
Apply max MSDs to further reduce the MP.
Extra credit: shop multiple dealers to see if anyone else will beat this. You in CT? Have you hit up Audi Greenwich?
If you can get these 3 steps done, this has potential to be a great deal!
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Thats a good deal, just got a quote this weekend for same car msrp was 63K even in NJ and with zero down they wanted 790 / mth for 7,500 miles. Mind sending the dealer details?
I just got the following in south Florida:
Vehicle: 2019 S4 Premium Plus
MSRP: $62,315
Dealer Discount: $7,315 12% Off
Selling price: $55,000
Incentives: $2,500 Audi Lease cash
MF: 0.00060
10 MSD’s
MF After MSD’s: 0.00010
Residual: 52%
Monthly: $638 (including tax: 7%)
Term: 39 months / 12k miles
DAS: $0 + $6,500 MDS’s
I would follow-up with the recommendations from @gc2a and then also consider adding AudiCare - it adds 1% to the residual value and if they give it to you at a reasonable cost, your maintenance for the 36 months will be a couple hundred bucks.
Audi care technically isn’t needed on a 36/10 lease because you’re really only responsible for one service (assuming the vehicle is traded in under the mileage allotment and just shy of 36 months). 39/10 or 36/12 it’s worth it.
Also, 39mo lease would only make sense in states with favorable registration laws. In CA, for example, it’s not worth it, as any savings is lost paying the extra renewal.
Audi service is once or year or every 10k miles (whichever’s 1st), so it is 2 services minimum if you turn it in a little early and under miles for a 36/10 lease.
First service (12mo/10k miles) is free from Audi. Only service you’d need to pay for is the 24mo/20k mile service.
I don’t fully understand the Audi service thing… it doesn’t just need oil changes like a regular car? What’s this 10k maintenance? Is it mandatory, and does Audi require it for leases?
it’s the biggest scam, I actually did the 15k maintenance… cost me about 450 and essentially it’s an oil change and a look over of the whole car, a car with 15k miles… I never went back
It’s a glorified oil change, which is why audi care isnt needed on a 36/10 lease (assuming the car is turned in just before the month and mileage limit). An independent can handle it for about $100.
If you’ll need 2 services during the lease, even though you can possibly save a couple bucks by using an independent, Audi care makes sense because everything is covered, you can get a loaner car if you need, etc. basically, you’ll be paying a few extra bucks for convenience.
Ok but let’s say I have an Audi and don’t get AudiCare, and just do regular oil changes every 5k miles or whatever, will it make any practical difference at lease end? Even a 12k lease?
Audi and many of the European luxury brands only need oil changes every 10k miles or so. That’s what the scheduled maintenance is.
There’s no need for an oil change every 3k miles like other vehicles.
With Audi, the first maintenance is always free. An independent can do the rest, just make sure they have the software (I think it’s called vagcom) to reset the computer.
Ok but my point was more about just getting an oil change (at whatever normal interval) sufficing for maintenance. In other words, what’s the point of AudiCare if I can just get 2 or 3 oil changes (for the avg rate of $60 - $70)?
If you just get an oil change and they don’t reset the computer than you’ll get charged for a past due service when the car is turned in.
I’m not sure if a place like jiffy lube will reset the computer.
If you’re asking if the car will be fine only on jiffy lube oil changes, I believe the answer is yes.
Seems like paying for AudiCare just to have them reset the computer is quite a premium.
Yeah I’ve never gotten Audi care and I generally don’t recommend it.
It LOOKS like a deal because it’s only an extra $10-15/month usually, BUT, that’s at least an extra $360 for the duration of the lease.
It makes no sense if you’ll only need to purchase one service.
For 2 services it could make sense due to the convenience aspect.
Audi has guidelines for their scheduled maintenance, eg.
10k miles a, b and c is done
20k miles x, y and z is done
30k miles etc.
I think early on it’s really basic shit like changing filters and other fluids.
Audicare covers other maintenance that goes up to 45k or 55k (depending on which mileage interval you purchase).
Depends heavily on the cars engine and transmission. Some cars require far more maintenance than others. Anything with the S-tronic transmission will require servicing by 45k miles. Some of the six cylinder engines need their spark plugs replaced by 35k miles. Audicare would cover those. The spark plugs alone is probably a 450 dollar service or more. Combine that with the two oil changes covered (20k/30k) then you’re almost to the full cost of Audicare. It covers other things as well.
Audicare is used by hackrs for peace of mind and raising the residual value; but the real beneficiaries of it are those who purchase and hold on to the car long term. It honestly makes no financial sense to option it for a lease of 3 years with 10k miles or less.
Thanks. Just wanted some more clarification on it. I’ve never leased a luxury car, so the only thing I’ve ever done was regular oil changes.