You’re not 100% wrong, sales can be miserable and is really only justified with the paycheck. However I will correct you and say that sales and finance management jobs are amazing. It’s worth the grind.
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How else do you become the bolt plug 
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A damn sales manager at 20? wow
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Yeah Ethan and I are the only ones that couldn’t drink if we had an industry party 
AFAIK
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Go to college. You don’t need much experience to get started in car sales but if you want to ever move into the corporate side of the automotive business, a college degree is a must. If you want dealer experience, a product specialist job is a good summer gig (i.e. BMW Genius)
Also most people don’t make it past 6 months in car sales. They burn out from the hours, dealing with customers, or just don’t know how to make enough money. Its a great job if you can succeed, but hard work isn’t enough.
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I don’t want to get into a back and forth because you found your career path…However I have a few friends in those departments and the only one who truly loves it is 41 and never plans on family or kids. The rest are miserable every-time they miss a kids game, weekend family event or any one of the number of holidays that involve a Outdoor tent and wavy inflatable arm guy. It’s a young mans game, and the juice doesn’t outweigh the squeeze.
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I greatly appreciate everyone’s comments, and I’m pretty certain now that ill go to college. As much as I’d think I’d enjoy sales, I think it would be hard for me to find a place I would enjoy working at. Being on the customer side i realize all the BS these people pull to make money, I get they have to pay bills and put food on the table, but I could not live with myself to sneakily make someone pay $900 for vin etching or let someone lease a basic X1 for $500+ a month.
I’ve been “shopping around” colleges and been looking for what was a good fit, hopefully one not too expensive. I was looking into business administration with concentrations in management or whatever I like better. What’s nice about a business degree is that I could probably get like a million jobs and it doesn’t even have to be in the business field, its so universal. My only fear was that I was going to go to college, end up in car sales anyway and actually like it and my degree went to waste. The hours do suck though and I kinda wanted to “live my life.”
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Agree - I went from BDC rep to Internet Director in a few months. The hours and stress of having a salesperson payplan would drive me nuts but I’d probably still make more than my previous industry that required a MA.
Must’ve been a crap industry (no offense). I work in healthcare and the folks in my biz, $150k a year with 4 weeks vacation is minimum wage, all with a MS. $240-300k with 8 weeks vacay is fairly common.
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Therapist.
Ahh yea not known for the big salaries relative to the degree requirements.
For mental health the choice job is psychiatric nurse practitioner. MS and you can do a lot of it online and relatively cheap. Job offers everyday, $75-150hr, can set your own hours, do locums, own a practice, work from home etc.
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I could do that but I’d rather take 10 phone-ups a day that I won’t sell a CTR for MSRP.
Some may disagree but unless you’re looking to specialize in something post college, don’t assume you have to study business administration to go into business. When I was 16 I felt that way, but I also had no idea what it really meant to “go into business.”
If that was the case, liberal arts education may not exist. If you’re unsure of what you want to do, like most should be at your age, consider studying what interests you the most. Doing so will make you a better learner in general and will ensure that the time and money spent getting a degree is well worth it.
I was a history major and got a liberal arts education. People my parents age would often ask, “oh, so does that mean you will be a teacher? What else can you do with that”? Most jobs out of college could care less about your major. And, if they do, it’s really easy to explain how you studied something you are passionate about so you could really embrace the entire experience and not only look at it as 4 years to get through for a piece of paper.
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Actually I saw a recent survey (forgot source) saying business majors ended up getting jobs that don’t require a college degree. Definitely don’t take out hefty student loans to get a business degree though.
Business major here (Marketing/Finance). My job definitely didn’t require the degree I have and I certainly didn’t need it. Absolutely loved my school and coursework but it’s probably only necessary if you see yourself working at a major consulting/finance gig where the competition is high and the “strength of your degrees” matters a bit more against other potential hires.
What do you do for work?
I just feel like going to college for me is for the sake of living life, meeting people, and having fun. Pretty much it’s really for the sake of having a college degree if I needed a job anywhere. A lot of people are saying that they didn’t need a degree to get into their job, but it’s kinda just the piece of mind for me
I work as a business analyst in Telecom. Spent most of my early years as a modeling junkie in excel but have delved into more strategic projects since.
My take is that business school teaches you more in the way of soft skills (communication, argumentation, problem solving) and then allows you to practice hard skills (financial/technical analysis) with business-oriented casework. These skills were a sort of a toolkit that have increase my work efficiency/ effectiveness, but most of what has allowed me to succeed in my role was learned on the job, as is the case in many industries.
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Lot of jobs have degree requirements, especially more entry level jobs, to weed out people. My industry has a lot of high/very high income people, and many don’t have college degrees, or have “check box” college degrees from random online universities. I personally think the hardest thing is getting your first job and being tactical in how you set up your career/income (whether you have a college degree or not).
Someone I met with something like a bachelors, 2 masters and 2, going on 3, Phds essentially said the same thing – He didn’t really learn anything from any of the degrees that he received, but every degree taught him how to think and approach things differently
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