Why is everyone transferring out of their X3M this month?

The m850i guy? Yeah they took the car back to the trailer after he pulled that stunt, they had people on the waiting list, people thought it was a tire bubble or something but anyone who was waiting knew LOL.

Was a bit ago but if I remember correctly it was after autocross let out and the guy probably had something left in his system.

If you’re on here, dude the guys after you had to ‘settle’ for a 750i. Way to ruin the event for the last hour for everyone else. The normal circuit is about that, Philly has highway and city street driving so I’m sure you’ll be fine, and if you’re nice I’m sure they’d let you drive it multiple times if you wait.

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Agree 100% and the manufacturers have created that perception in many ways.

The X3M is too compromised. Not enough SUV for the price. It’s not big enough (for many) and not comfortable enough. Can’t use the performance. So you’re kind of just paying out but not getting much for your money (as a daily). Looks and sounds nice enough, but you could go for a $700/month (still a bit high?) Ghibli if you just wanted a badge and nice (better, IMO) exhaust sounds. The interiors are similar. M models being one generation behind inside is still a big turn-off for me…

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Thing is, it’s all about expectation management. As far as super compact crossovers go, the X3 M is on the bottom rung, price-wise.

It’s nothing special aside from a fast engine and highly (emphasis on the highly) strung suspension. The seats look cool, but the rest is really just regular X3 except for red M paddles. They needed to make this thing to a price point so they used the M parts bin.

You end up with a Jekyll and Hyde complex where the Jekyll part never graduated finishing school. There’s plenty of oomph in the car, but absolutely no subtlety. I also don’t think it sets itself apart in the segment beyond just speed.

The Stelvio QV has style and flash, the MB GLC 63S has V8 power and sound, and the Porsche Macan Turbo has refinement and engineering.

All of those come at a steeper price than the X3 M and that tells me the story of what BMW really thinks of it’s target market. I honestly think BMW severely missed the mark on this one.

The people that wanted a BMW M3 with more practicality wanted the wagon not a crossover and the reception to the X3 M shows it.

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It would be interesting to know how many X3M drivers have even looked at their tires. Or will after they slide thru a stop sign this winter.

Those old enough to remember when most BMW and MB were RWD will remember hearing some people say “They are terrible in snow!” without a clue that they were on summer shoes.

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This group of states makes up almost exactly half (49.95%) of the US population.

The sub-segment who live in one of these states that also worries about needing snow tires is going to be pretty small.

And I probably could have included several other states.

Rank State July 2019 Estimate Percent of Total
1 California 39,512,223 11.91%
2 Texas 28,995,881 8.74%
3 Florida 21,477,737 6.47%
8 Georgia 10,617,423 3.20%
9 North Carolina 10,488,084 3.16%
12 Virginia 8,535,519 2.57%
13 Washington 7,614,893 2.29%
14 Arizona 7,278,717 2.19%
23 South Carolina 5,148,714 1.55%
24 Alabama 4,903,185 1.48%
25 Louisiana 4,648,794 1.40%
28 Oklahoma 3,956,971 1.19%
32 Nevada 3,080,156 0.93%
33 Arkansas 3,017,825 0.91%
34 Mississippi 2,976,149 0.90%
36 New Mexico 2,096,829 0.63%
40 Hawaii 1,415,872 0.43%

That thread was hilarious.

The thing rides like a buck board! It’s no wonder people want to dump it after driving it a bit. I got one as a loaner when I took my 640GT in for service. Ride was literally worse than my old M3.

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And also because Porsche doesn’t allow transfers, AFAIK :slight_smile:

They do bubba

Talking about Porsches for a sec. I saw a new Cayenne Coupe this past weekend in Western MA. It was silver and looked nice in person.

Huh? Care to elaborate?

Terrible idea let’s not do this

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I will say it like this, suv’s are trendy.

Aside from men I would say Many women like the x3, x5, x7.

What’s not to like about their suvs, they are stylish, have great tech, luxury brand, etc etc

The full M cars not the Mxx throw luxury out the window, essentially these cars are built to be “supercar killers” whether it be on the track or in a straight line.

How else do you explain the m5 sedan dropping 0-60 times like 2.8-3.0 seconds on the street, or the m4 cs suspension to be very stiff… built for track use.

I think quite literally M took the x3 and made it very hardcore to appeal to enthuasists, which it no doubt does a great job.

With that being said most men let alone women aren’t even used to circa 500 hp in a rwd biased awd system, take the “trendyness” of suv’s plus a fully blown M car, with it looking very aggressive and staying relatively affordable (compared to the 100k+ sticker of the x5M and the x6M) and you have a recipe for a huge mistake for many buyers.

Like others have said the key issues with this car seems to be harsh suspension, sluggish acceleration on low rpms/speed, and the initial sticker shock of having to run 2 sets of tires.

It’s not the cost of the tires it’s just that most people aren’t used to running winter/3 season tires and going through the hassle of swapping them out not to mention having another set of wheels.

I think the key point comes down to the fact that suvs are viewed as comfortable and cushy but the x3M throws that out the window and thus you have a vehicle that some aren’t prepared for, man or woman.

Yes, thank you, I think that is the takeaway point.

What about non-binary sex robots?

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They’re the only ones who can handle all the power, duh. :slight_smile:

You got that right. :eggplant:

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Im am about two weeks in to my lease- Its my first 350hp+ car.
I wanted an AWD Sedan/SUV that was powerful and one level up.

This was best bang for my buck. It was either this or the SQ5or X3 M40i. (Circa 350 HP) I was able to get a good deal on the X3M so I pulled the trigger. Although I was more attracted to the tech in the SQ5 the lease assumption for BMW is best in class (knock no wood)

Going in I knew that the suspension was very tight- So far I am ok with it, I hope the novelty does not wear off. I do see the there is a slight lag in the low revs.
I could not get close 1% on any competitors 470hp+ (GLC63, MACCAN GTS, ALPHA ETC.) so I went with the X3M and I dont hate it so far :slight_smile:

This is the first car that I am going to have to buy winter tires or something ( I am going to have to to hide them from my wife :slight_smile: :slight_smile:
and when I keep the car in sport mode it gets greedy with my gas.

I do hope that the market does not become flooded bc I am looking forward to my $700 payment remains attractive enough to a transferee to give me my MSDs back…

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Can we just say “people” like them?

1957 called–it wants its mindset back.

:bat:

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