i am based in Washington, trying to hack a 24/10k lease on a 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona (open to R/T or Scat Pack). i know these units are sitting on lots, so i pushed hard for a heavy front-end discount before the quarter closed, but i feel like i hit a wall.
my target math:
term: 24 months / 10k miles
dealer discount: 25% off MSRP (pre-rebates)
base MF: 0.00535
rebates: $20,250 (unless my math is wrong here)
where i am stuck:
local dealers: the absolute best i got in writing was 22.7% off MSRP on a base R/T, but they completely loaded the back end. marked up the MF, and stuffed $1,400 of useless add-ons, wouldn’t give me the full rebates. other locals tapped out at 21% and wouldn’t budge, still with a high mf. what other leverage do i use to negotiate for a decent deal?
out of state: tried looking in OK, AR, and KY. all the “massive” 30% dealer discounts were just the dealers baking the Stellantis lease cash into the selling price. plus, shipping a heavy EV to the PNW kills most of the savings anyway.
my questions for the community:
is a clean 25% pre-rebate discount with base MF actually happening on these right now, or is my 22.7% local offer the actual floor? cars have been sitting on the lots for over 450/500 days.
are there any brokers serving the PNW who can help and get me a clean deal without the F&I games?
I have given up on Stellantis dealers. The worst. They’re holding cars that have sit for over a year and expecting markups on cars with $20k rebates.
they need to terminate over half of their dealers if they are to ever be relevant.
This 100%. I made them perfectly good offers on Hornet R/Ts last year (left some meat on the bone on the front-end) and the dealers insisted that I take thousands of add-on crap. Worst experience ever, and this was with multiple dealers. Usually, there are a few good ones and a few bad ones, but just about EVERY Stellantis store was crap, especially considering the cars were having birthrdays.
My advice, stay far away from this car. It isn’t worth the headache and as far as I am concerned, it should be immediately bought back by Dodge. Safety risk.
I put in a random WA zip code into Ratefindr and picked 2025 R/T and only see 12,750 lease cash, $1,000 TDM (if you have a code) and $500 for First Responder or Military (if you qualify).
yeah that’s a fair point, i’ve seen a bunch of negative reviews but this would be our second car so i’m okay with spending some money and time while i have. thanks for the callout!
i believe the 20k rebates are for the scat pack, the R/T from what i was seeing end of march was at 19k (12750 lease cash + another 7500 ev credit iirc). will probably walk into the dealership and settle for the R/T if i can get it sub 300/mo, 0 down.
updates: Dodge dealers are ***holes. the sales manager at a dealership 1.5 hours away from me agreed to do 0 down, $340/mo over text, and i double checked before going in person. turns out, it was $490/mo, 0 down once i go in and he blamed his salesperson for not adding taxes.
ended up walking out of there without the car. couldn’t even be mad they i was so annoyed.
This x1000. Worst set of dealers. Tried to get a Hornet R/T several months ago and every Dodge dealer was awful to work with. I’m perfectly fine if you can’t do a deal (I even left some meat on the bone), but they’re either been rude or shady in most cases. Making me buy thousands of dollars in garbage add-ons even though the rebates weren’t costing them anything, etc. etc.
Had a similar experience with my local Jeep stores as well and ended up ordering from one of the big “remote” options that were shipping orders hassle-free.
Unless you really really want a Daytona, I would look elsewhere.
yeah i was looking for the scat packs in other states since there weren’t any 2025s available in WA for leasing. was open to shipping, but after my horrible experience yesterday with the dealership, i’m kinda turned off from all dodge cars. will probably try to find something else more fun.
