This is relatively new subject matter to me, and I’m not that interested in doing a ton of research as I casually explore possiblities, so I’m going to periodically lob the questions into this thread to see what I get back from people with more knowledge and passion.
Feel free to toss in your own general 911 commentary, news and questions as well.
The thread is for anyone with an interest in or opinions on these cars.
Probably the best enthusiast forum out there for any brand
Tried that first a couple of times.
Makes my eyes roll back in my head, plus my questions are all noob-level.
What’s the target budget for the 911?
First question.
I know there are other variables from example to example (mileage, obviously, and to some extent how each is equipped), but broadly speaking is this essentially how quickly the Turbos depreciate?
I got this email from a CarGurus listing subscription today, and found it striking.
Let’s say under $150k.
I haven’t driven anything yet, so my starting point is that the first priority is containing the depreciation (on an actual dollar basis and not a percentage).
That’s how I’m truly looking at budget.
992 - interested
991.2 - maybe
Older - hard no
Edit: I want a coupe, not convertible, and AWD (car is for use in Ohio and I’m not willing to swap tires for the winter, even if that’s a worthy suggestion for someone with more ambition).
Edit: Automatic/PDK only. No manual.
The car it would replace as an errand runner is driven < 300 miles a month. I’ll keep it 4-5 years.
And you definitely would not consider a 997.1/2 that has essentially fully depreciated and you could enjoy for 75 miles each week?
A 997 4S w a manual is a very good option if you buy it right and they will not depreciate much if at all.
Those 3 models are very different and I dont think should be compared to each other.
1 vs 2: Turbo vs Turbo S
2 vs 3: 991.2 vs 992.
Not for me 
A clean, bone stock, 4S coupe or targa, w manual, is more of my style. You can pick up something very nice for $55-75K (997).
Historically, depreciation has been greater. The 992 turbo used market is still artificially high due to covid times
This. It’s all out of whack right now. My friends 991.1 GT3 is worth more than what he paid for it 5 years ago. He paid well under sticker and now wholesale dealers are offering him original MSRP on trade.
This is a beaut
He said no black wheels in another thread
Under 150k, here’s my avoidance list in terms of overly inflated pricing at the moment:
Overall, I think you’ve gotta ask yourself what the top end of “usable” speed and power is. For me, under 3.5s 0-60 is a blur and I don’t really value additional performance past that. I’m not a speed chaser personally, but like good acceleration. Launch control in most Porsches are nuts, so definitely get sport chrono.
I know you were saying 997 is too old, but 2007 - 2010 997 turbos can be had for pretty good pricing and intermediate mileage. Only downside is finding a hardtop seems difficult in my search.
If you can swing a <10k mile car, you can get a dirt cheap Fidelity Plat warranty and drive nearly worry free.
Here’s a nice breakdown of 911 variants:
You really are gonna buy a 150k car, drive it in winter and not swap the tires? This is pretty paradoxical in my opinion. I would want the best summer tires money can buy on my 911 and then obviously winter tires if you really are going to drive it in snow
Not to derail with a quick question, but what is your stance on a ‘20+ Macan GTS in terms of depreciation? I believe they hold a bit better than say an S, but I’m considering the S as well.
I test drove a new Macan yesterday (for the first time) and I loved it. They handle so well, just as I’ve heard many people say. I would be looking at a CPO unit, in attempt to curve some of the $ depreciation.
Ha, two of those cars I was looking at earlier today…while browsing the Porsche sites. (I’m not in the market for a 911 though)
Be sure to factor in the CPO risk/reward into your estimated TCO as well, in terms of getting a car with or without the certification. Porsche’s CPO program is probably one of the best out there, and I know that I would certainly be willing to pay (something) to have it.
Buying anything inflated is a pretty bad idea but a 911 Turbo even more so.
For anyone else I’d recommend a brand new Carrera but based on your prior posts you said you didn’t like them.
And even with AWD I don’t think you’re going to like the rear weight distribution and tendency to oversteer. In the snow with all seasons isn’t actually a great idea.
Seems like something else with a front-mounted TTV8 is more your thing.
