You should go back to the tesla forum because we really don’t care, you’ve missed the point.
Apparently you do given how worked up you are over it
You’ll be able to get one at $35K, but it will be so stripped down that you won’t want it. That’s how all car manufacturers work. Reel you in with a low base model price and then add layers of add-ons that bring the price up. Sorry you weren’t smart enough to realize this.
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They should put out the $35K version with manual roll up windows. 
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I’d call it a scam if the deposit wasn’t refundable. I’d call it a scam if they actually announced there will be no $35k model. Until then though, I’d just call it a disappointment.
I have to agree with other posters here tho. I think order of the car should be fulfilled according to the order of pre-order/deposite. If for some reason, the base model is not manufacture-able, that is another story. If anything, Tesla should have made it clear when pre-order is open. People who want the $35K car may not put down their deposit to begin with. What is the potential buyer supposed to think at current situation? If you have enough money, I will serve you now, otherwise you just have to wait indefinitely?? I personally think the $$35k promise can be considered as scam.
I actually don’t think people hate because they can’t get a Model3. Everyone who wants one can get one now at $55k. But there are good amount of people, majority of the buyers,who don’t care about this car. Fanboyism doesn’t help here. I think people hate the fanboyism, not the car.
And to the car itself, I can definitely see the advantages, but there are the share of disadvantages as with any cars. If you ask me now if Model 3 is worth the cost, $62K out the door for my test sample, I will still say it is a sure no. I also don’t think cross shopper will buy this car at $62K. I still think most buyers today is Tesla enthusiasts.
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Well, if you call that, it is a very long term chronical disappointment. But why even take deposit from people if you have no plan to deliver.
I think they will deliver a $35k base model next year.
It’s economics 101. The production line runs non stop building the same car. When the LR order dries up, move onto the regular one to expand to a larger market audience. Tesla doesn’t build cars to sit at various dealerships, they build it as order comes in with a limited amount of inventory on hand for quick sale. You might not like how it is run, but it makes sense from a business point of view. You can waive a $150k check at the showroom, you will still have a tough time driving the car home the same day (unless you are vip of course…)
Spot on. I still hear people bash the Big 4 (then 3, then 2.5) from the junk they put out in the 80s and 90s, and wouldn’t even consider them today, despite the fact quality is on par if not better than the Asian counterparts in some respects and on some models. I lived through some of that junk…dark days, indeed, for a car fan. One could argue it led to the demise of Olds, Pontiac, Plymouth, Mercury, etc… Cadillac and Lincoln held on by a thread, and they’re still reeling.
Tesla is in a unique situation at the moment where they can get away with some of this, as competition is low. One some of the major players start bringing things online, infrastructure and interest builds outside of CA, and costs begin to come down in line with ICE vehicles, Tesla isn’t going to be able to get away with having to repaint a car immediately after delivery outside of maybe the the most die-hard fans.
Tesla Model 3 short fund manager reacts to Q2 earnings report.
I don’t disagree with you that they should probably go off the order number, but then I understand why they can’t. If they make $15000 less on half the cars they will be selling this year, they will lose nearly a billion dollar in revenue/cash. If that happens, they would have to raise funds again this year. That wouldn’t be fair to the shareholders and it would just fuel the haters.
Not everyone who has a Tesla is a fanboy, there are many with multiple ev cars. As I said, come back and tell me when another ev car comes out with long range and 100kw charging.
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Fair enough. I do agree with you on a lot of things, but we should also agree to disagree on others. After all, everyone has different priority and requirement for a car.
I think at this point, I will try to stop respond to fanboys or haters. But if anyone want an real life usage and opinion on a Model 3, I am happy to share. Again, I don’t own this Model 3 personally, so I have no dog in the fight.
For sure, the quality, lack of customer service, not treating existing customers correctly will come back and bite them eventually. Heck, even their superchargers’ model is not really sustainable as there are now more cars on the road.
On the other hand, I am sure they will come out with something different that will keep people in the brand. They might even throw a few bones out in the form of software update. You could be driving a 2012 Tesla, by next month your dash can change for the 3rd time and have added functions put into your car. What manufacture have that capability now?
I think OTA firmware updates from a company not entirely focused on QA is a little dicey.
Like the wrong update being sent to your car, bricking it…
It’s a cool concept, but it also opens up a lot of potential problems too. I’m not sure I’d be interested in this, although, if the rest of the industry starts going this way, I guess I don’t have a choice, unless I buy a used car and try to keep it running.
It’s an option to have, you can always ignore it. I skipped my last update, I made it to the next one just fine.
Right…but just like a phone, you never know when the next update might brick it. I’ve never had it happen but plenty of others have.
Bricking a phone is one thing. Getting stranded because your car got bricked at home is another. It might be a small risk, but one that exists.
I’d say like a Windows update.
I would say Windows 10 update has been far more reliable than iPhons iOS update for the recent years