Suggestions? Stuck on negotiations

Deal Check? Kia EV9 Wind trim. I’d hoped for closed to 7500 cash back after trading in on this one-pay. No sales tax in WI with trade value is a plus. And their offer on my trade-in is generous.

But I was working with some outdated info: Kia no longer discounts MF on one-pay deals and residual came in a full 3 points below what I’d expected.

Dealer resisted attempts to get further discount on MSRP before Kia rebates. Am I dead in the water? Don’t want to beat up the salesperson but I see plenty of deals under invoice on here..

How do you know you are getting fair value on your trade?

Higher that carmax guaranteed by 1500. 1000 under carvanas offer

How did you set your expectations here? The rv shouldn’t be a surprise.

If Carvana came in higher, why not sell to Carvana.

Separating 2 deals is always cleaner, especially if you get a higher price elsewhere.

If I do that i would pay sales tax with the dealer and actually end up net negative

Yeah thats on me! I made a calculator in excel to play around and somehow pulled older mf and rv data. Seems both have shifted away from my favor in the last six months.

Move on. The discount is a joke.