Subaru Forester Premium Hybrid - Any way not to get railed?

Been shopping around for two weeks. Understand that MSRP is all they are willing to do.

Most dealers are giving me a .00273 MF on it 50 basis points over the MF found on Edmunds .00223. They seem pretty reluctant to negotiate it down.

Is this just the best price I can find?

Makes me wonder if I should just buy a non-hybrid instead. The savings in gas don’t make sense.. It’d be a lease to purchase just to feel it out, and see if any issues pop-up in the first 3 years.

Any thoughts? Advice? Info on sales?

What’s the MF (vs. interest rate for a loan) for the non-hybrid?

Is @rubbergash still around and at a Subaru store?

The MF on the non-hybrid is .00135 MF, same residual, and it’s about $2k cheaper in MSRP. I haven’t tried negotiating for one yet, so not sure what the dealer mark-up would be.

Why would there be a dealer markup on a Subaru Forester? Have you checked marketplace to see what brokers are offering?

You cant force the Forester hybrid to have a low lease, its a new model with no discounts and poor programs. It is what it is

Forester gas I can giveaway and the lease is great on it

Or I have Tucson hybrid, Sportage plugin, CRV Hybrid that are low and nice in the hybrid SUV segment

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What I mean is markup the MF.

I have two preliminary deals from two dealerships. One is discounting about $1000 off msrp, and the other roughly $1600 but has dealer packages. But when I try putting info into the calculator I’m not getting the same rates that they are sending over.

For reference Edmund’s rates according to my zip code: 60% residual & 0.00103 MF.

Estimate 1:

Calculator for estimate 1


FIGURED THIS ONE OUT! Estimate 2:

Calculator for estimate 2

Im under all of these without the hours/days of shopping

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Hey Jeff,

I had seen your subaru deals but since you didn’t have the Limited trim listed, I didn’t think to reach out. I just texted you.

Excited to see what you can offer.