Signed! '24.5 Q4 55 e-tron Quattro Prestige, $397/m @ $66,340 MSRP, 24/10k, $0 down, $0 DAS, $0 MSDs

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Was looking for a 2024.5 facelift (55) to get a deal on, emailed a target offer to many dealers and a few were interested but in the end only one agreed to this non-replicable, end of the month/quarter/year deal although I am sure others would have as well with some continued persistence.

2024.5 Q4 55 e-tron Quattro Prestige w/Black Optic pkg, 24/10k, MSRP: $66,340, $57,019 after 14% discount, 24/10k, 66% RV, .00169 MF (base/buy rate). Incentives: $7.5k AFS/EV, $1.5k Season of Audi, $1k military and $1k in “customer appreciation certificates” (ask your dealer for that). $0 down, $0 DAS and $0 MSDs.

Great small SUV/EV and especially at this price.

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Can’t beat it for the price, congrats!

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Fantastic. Did not realize these were leasing this well. Was the customer appreciation certificate hard to get (i.e. do most dealers have/willing to give them?) Other than that, seems like the only qualified customer rebates was military?

In any case, congrats!

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Thanks! Not sure if they are hard to get as I didn’t even know they existed until I was told they were applied to the deal (some in-house, non-customer facing, trunk cash spiff between them and Audi) to try to come close to meeting my lowball target.

I also think people would be surprised at how many dealers will apply military (whether through ID.me or not) to make a deal happen. I would think everybody has some kind of relative in the military and you could prove it through ID.me or some other manner depending on what the dealer or manufacturer will accept.

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Wait thats a thing? I thought you had to provide active military docs to prove? If its just Id.me thats a legit huge
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You have to verify your own military status through ID.me or that of a family member. ID.me works differently for different levels of service, etc. Other dealers will only accept a valid military ID from the person purchasing or leasing the car. We are able to use ID.me due to direct family member military service.

Everyone’s mileage will vary on this, but in the end, thank the people that are serving for their service no matter what!

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I have I’d.me thanks to Usaa but I didn’tknow some dealers would take that. That’s awesome to know that it’s worth a try! With obvious caveat that ymmv.

My sister is in the navy can i use hers? Lol

If you sign up for ID.me and she does as well, you can have it show as having “military family” on your ID.me if they are like linked.

That may or may not be acceptable depending on the dealer and the manufacturer program.

noob question: when sending target offers, do you send the numbers in a template, or just how you displayed it in your post? thanks

Great job. Probably the best lease deal I have seen. I have be worrking on Q5e deal for a few weeks. Dealers also have marketing money they can use too!

Keep in mind that 90% of the time the “target offer” email won’t work because the proposed deal is too ridiculous, the sender screws it up or the dealer is not interested.

Most people should just use a broker.

This all really applies to a lease, but can apply with some changes to a purchase as well.

You have to do research on here and elsewhere to see what a realistic target might be by looking at other deals, brokers, etc. You also need to know all of the incentives available (like being a Super Supporter on here, Edmunds, etc.) and hopefully know if there is any trunk cash (like there is/was on an Acura ZDX right now). You also should have Tier One credit and confirm that in advance.

The target deal will be based upon a certain % off of MSRP, then all incentives applied, a base/buy rate MF with zero markup, MSDs or not, DAS or money down or not, zero ADM and the elimination of costs for factory, port or dealer add-ons if possible. The dealer needs to know up front from you that the % off of MSRP DOES NOT INCLUDE incentives as they often will try and combine the two. Like any negotiation, the initial and proposed deal monthly number should be LOWER that what you expect to ultimately pay on your target number. If you start with your ACTUAL target number it can be hard for you to get that as the dealer will want to counter and almost always come in higher.

Plug your numbers into the LHer calculator and write up an email based upon the numbers. The numbers should all be broken down very much like they are in the LHer calc BUT DO NOT SEND THE LHer CALC or something that looks just like it. The email should be to the Sales Manager(s) and/or General Sales Manager if you can get that info from the dealer website, otherwise you just submit it and sift through the first-level employees.

The email should be very, very short, list the stock # and VIN # of the car and tell them you are ready to lease/buy ASAP and will be there as soon as they confirm the deal via email AND have the paperwork ready to sign. DO NOT SAY THINGS LIKE “I love this car” or “This is the exact spec I am searching for” or “I am cross-shopping this and ___ and ____.” ONLY send this email when you are absolutely ready to go on THAT unit.

If you get a deal going, they will need your DL, proof on insurance and want to run a credit check in advance (and you should unfreeze your credit at that point BUT ONLY when you have the deal confirmed). DO NOT AUTHORIZE A CREDIT CHECK UNTIL YOU HAVE CONFIRMED ALL TERMS OF THE ACCEPTABLE DEAL AND YOU ARE READY TO SIGN AND TAKE DELIVERY.

Be prepared to be ghosted, insulted and told “we will lose money on that car with your numbers” by most dealers. Do not engage by telephone unless you absolutely have to. You need to realistic, persistent and not emotionally wrapped up in any deal, car or whatever. Engage in the back and forth and even follow up later with some that told you “no” originally. Be firm but be polite and professional at all times.

Also remember these points:

  1. Don’t start this process 3 days before your lease turn in or when you need a car today
  2. Try and keep any trade in out of this whole scenario. It can be done, but it can make a great deal bad, make the dealer be less inclined to do the deal and/or make the deal more complicated very quickly
  3. Do not step foot in the dealer until the deal is done and ready to sign. Test drives and tire kicking should have happened weeks before this point.

Others can chime in but this is what has worked for me many times. Good luck with the process!

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I’ve never understood this sentiment. Sure, a lot of my deals done over text or email, BUT it’s OK to hop on a phone. If you’re emailing sales managers or GMs, they are notoriously slow to respond to / seeing emails. A lot of my deals have been done by a quick phone call. On the phone, the offer & details you give them do not change.

Your experience is 100% the opposite of mine and to each his/her own.

The dealers that want the business can and will engage by email the entire time. No legitimate reason to speak on the phone other than for them to pass you off to a “sales consultant,” whine about losing money or how hard the car business is, ask you questions that can be answered in writing or for some other waste of time.

Most SMs and GSMs I have dealt with in the last five to seven years are not on the floor dealing with the walk-ins and tire kickers. They remain in the management office, running numbers for the floor and telephone (internet) sales staff, so to the contrary, they are actually in front of their computers and are not too busy at all to respond to emails. In fact, on this latest round I had nearly all managers that were contacted initially responding within minutes of an email. If they did get close to my deal and wanted a phone number, I asked them to text me to my Google Voice number and they generally would send a text from their CRM “text” system - essentially the same as an email conversation. Also on this round I had emails (and texts) well OUTSIDE of business hours from many of these managers as well.

Do you think the brokers or dealers on this site or elsewhere are doing anything other than website forms, DMs, texts and emails? Ask them how many will or want to take an actual phone call. They, like most dealers, find it easier to rely upon what is in writing as opposed to a call that is not memorialized in any way.

As far as I am concerned and in the year 2024/2025, any person that does not timely respond to emails and/or texts (during business hours) should be in some other line of work where time is not of the essence and you can afford to not be responsive to customers.

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I’m not saying you have to speak on the phone to successfully lease hack, I’m saying its OK and matter of preference, and not something that has to be avoided at all cost. I don’t see it as any different than texting…

And to be clear, even when calling up a dealer, when you come to terms on a deal, you want to see it in writing, example lease contract, etc. before you head to sign. I too prefer to work over email/text, but in some cases, dealers don’t list emails. In these cases, esp for the initial outreach, I’ve found its easier to call vs submitting an online lead with all of the info, only to have them ask again when they reach out to you etc.

Re: Brokers – I’m not sure its an apples to apples comparison, because the engagement model is (or should be) a bit different than dealers in that:

Brokers on this site have detailed spreadsheets with actual offers/deals posted, many with configurable calculators. There is no offer, negotiation, or back and forth (ideally, of course) in terms of the discount. Of course they don’t want to take phone calls because it’s the best they can offer, and it’s take it or leave it. They don’t want to deal with tire kickers or open ended inquiries over the phone, and their phone would be blowing up non-stop from folks who aren’t serious OR who haven’t taken the time to read the 101 articles.

Depends on how many people you’re making an offer to. Beyond a very small number, hopping on the phone quickly becomes unscalable.

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One other PSA that I forgot to mention:

If you are looking for a '24 you need to make sure you find the '24.5 facelift that is designated a “2024 Audi Q4 55 e-tron” (2024.5) on the Monroney sticker if you can, and not the “2024 Q4 50 e-tron” that DOES NOT have the facelift upgrades.

Same price and more upgrades for power, charging, battery and handling across the board for sure.

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In the good, old days, Sam @AudiBH’s most efficient path was a quick, direct phone call where he would not only tell you the deal, but also send you the deal sheet via email while you were on the phone.

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appreciate the detailed response! lots of good info here!

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