You dropped this gem about my EQS deal: “A lot of folks here have gotten their EQS’ at similar discounts. Just not all the incentives and stars lined up like this deal.”
A statement delivered with such conviction. So, where are the receipts? Because conviction without proof isn’t just hollow; it’s an obligation to validate, or what little credibility one might cling to evaporates. Fast.
Let’s talk basics. “Similar discounts”? That tells us nothing. Zip. Anyone who’s actually done one of these deals knows a discount percentage is a single, often misleading, data point. What was the MSRP it was based on? What was the actual Money Factor charged versus the buy rate? Were all the complex, stackable incentives for that specific VIN and region meticulously applied, or did they leave thousands on the table? What about fees? Without the full, unadulterated worksheet, “similar discount” is just a lazy way to sound like you’re in the know.
Then there’s your “stars lining up” theory for the rest. Here’s a truth: “Stars” don’t negotiate. People do. Strategy does. Expertise, born from countless hours of research and relentless follow-through, does. Attributing a complex, engineered financial outcome to pure “luck” is the go-to for those who either can’t comprehend the work involved or, perhaps, need to diminish others’ success to feel better about their own.
See, people who actually know what they’re talking about, who live and breathe these deals, rarely make sweeping “always” or “never” statements. They understand nuance. They understand that in this game, there are very few absolutes. And anyone with a modicum of self-respect and intellectual honesty isn’t going to make definitive claims they can’t back up with cold, hard facts. If I say something, it’s because I can prove it or I’ve lived it. I don’t speculate wildly in a place where others are trying to gain real, actionable information that can help them, not hinder or confuse them with baseless generalities.
So, when someone like you makes a statement like that – a broad, dismissive brush-off with zero supporting evidence – what’s the actual purpose? Is it to disrupt? To project some insecurity? Did a deal go south for you, and now you need to level the playing field by downplaying others’ wins? Because those who can, do and show. Those who can’t… well, they make vague statements on forums.
The challenge remains, crystal clear: Show your receipts. Present the verifiable deals. Demonstrate that your conviction is backed by something other than air.