If only they had the parts to get those trucks out of WIP and sold.
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GM - hold GM’s beer:
I expect to be alive 12/31/2029 to see GM (which I expect should be in business) maybe sell a self-driving vehicle.
Mary Barra — who said under oath she wouldn’t let her own teen drive a flammable GM car — proclaimed:
“Later in the decade, I believe, and there’s a lot to still unfold, but I believe we’ll have personal autonomous vehicles,” she told investors Wednesday. (Any statements contained in this report that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements as defined in the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.)
Edit: she is all over the media today, but her interview with Bloomberg, jfc
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The shortage is either super real or the dealers are just hyping it up and being tooo optimistic that they will sell everything they have super fast without any discounts.
I’ve been trying to haggle a Toyota Venza LE for 36 months lease and NONE of the 7 dealers that I contacted are going below the national Toyota lease deal. The best I have gotten is $300/month with tax and $2000 DAS. This just includes $1750 rebates. They are not giving 1% discount on the MSRP. Toyota hasn’t even been affected much by the shortage and especially the Venza is manufactured in Japan which hasn’t faced much problem any way. I don’t know what’s wrong. Some dealers just turned us away in 10 minutes. And I made sure I told all of them that I am willing to sign the deal RIGHT NOW. It was very clear that they are not at all desperate to sell at this point. I decided that I will wait another 10-12 days and see if these folks are able to sell their inventory by the end of this month.
I am located in San Jose, CA. I tried getting the deal that Shailender Singh got for his Venza, but there is NO WAY in hell any dealer will give me a 7-9% off the MSRP. And he got the deal just 20 days back. Wonder what changed.
Manufactured in Japan with globally sourced parts. It’s often one or a few components that can hold up an entire product (like a CPU)
They won’t be getting a ton more, and probably know they can get at sticker price or above when things get real dry come summer time.
With the Manheim index (what used cars are worth) where it’s at, you’re bidding against Budget, Nationwide, rental car companies who are desperate just to replenish their fleets.
Ended up ordering a Tesla before it affects them(their price)
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I don’t know man, you tell me. Toyota of Dallas is one of the biggest dealerships by volume in TX and that’s the ground report from today.
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Bro… are you kidding me right now?
Everything is at MSRP minus the rebate now at this point
And I am going against my New Car Director’s pricing to get LH customers the deal.
I would have gotten fired last Saturday if I did this kind of deal everyday.
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Plot twist, it probably won’t at least compared to everyone else. They maintain a close relationship with chip manufacturers and designed their own SOC hardware for ‘autopilot 3.0’. Their FSD chips are fabbed by Samsung, instead of relying on outside tech from someone like Nvidia. Which is fabbed/made by Taiwan Semi-Conductor, a manufacturer involved with AMD, and the older ‘Tesla AutoPilot 2.0/2.5’ hardware, plus supplies many auto chips.
They (Tesla) were able to flexibly adapt to different chips and substitute different chips from manufacturers for their normal (now unobtainable chips). It’s just showing the failure of the modern supply chain. For the lead up to this crisis, arguably, most didn’t really expect everyone to buy record amounts of cars during a global pandemic when millions of people are dying from A. Complications, B. Disease itself, or C. At increased rates.
They (auto parts suppliers, think Bosch, etc) reduced orders of chips, which has resulted in shortages down the line, as I’ve been told orders are done quarterly (unconfirmed, told by my cousin at Intel). What I can confirm is that chips make forever to make, and ramp ups aren’t an instant flip of the switch, so plan to be in this state of absolute pandemonium for a bit more.
If you’re wondering why I know this, my family is involved in the semiconductor industry in Taiwan, much of my family overseas works at Intel and other companies. I actually almost went into electrical or computer engineering instead of Finance.
TLDR; Nobody expected this level of demand in the auto industry following a global shutdown and pandemic, chips take forever to make, so supply has been interrupted during a time when auto sales are heavily elevated.
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Thank you so much for all the replies folks! :))
I guess I’ll have to settle for the national lease deal 
Most if not all manufacturers wish they could do that too. They’re no happier about chuckleheads at the dealership diluting their brand than you are. But dealership groups have the boots on the ground advantage for b̶r̶i̶b̶i̶n̶g̶ influencing state and local politicians to keep franchise laws in place. And besides, if they ever get rid of dealerships we’d all have to find a new hobby.
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Let us know how that goes. Cousin placed an order for a Model X 6 weeks ago, nothings moved yet except the deposit receipt 
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Local Tesla showrooms haven’t had floor models for more than a month now I believe, however one unit shows up sometimes (who knows employee car just to have something 
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Despite everything that’s going on, I’m really surprised we haven’t already seen a thread asking about Memorial Day sales.
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There was one yesterday…
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Oh, no. Really? 
Ah, the Tegra days. (bit of a nerd here too)
Chip shortage expected to be around for a while, like you said, ramping up takes time, tons of demand - partially.
We’ll see how things go and how well stocked up they are.
My cancelled Model 3 said 6-8 weeks, Model Y says 5-7 weeks, so I’ve got that going for me… which is pretty nice.
Mods can take a break for a few months, it looks like there won’t be much lease hacking for a while 
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Toyota is affected by the chip manufacturing facility that burned
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I cant wait until the market turns around and crashes and these dealers that wont give you the time of day or quote straight MSRP start begging for people to take a single car off their lot.
You will be waiting for a long time… lonngggggg time…
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