While LH love to lease new car, we also have others who love to buy lease return and save some money. Hopefully this thread will help those to do their research since it will be hard to do a competent ppo for ev right now. Here’s some template:
Make, Model & Trim:
Any special option: (3rd row, winter package, etc)
VIN:
Repair/warranty work:
Issues/defect/accident:
Review: how the car drive, what you like about the car, what you don’t like about the car, will you recommend other for this car?
So the purpose of this thread is: I drove my lease to (full disposition, early return of one-pay without penalty, or traded as part of a pull-ahead), here is what I leased, here is what I actually used, review the car and would you recommend/lease again?
Does this include purchases? Third party purchases? Trade-ins outside pull-ahead? Total loss ahead during the lease? Lease buyouts?
Say a little more about how you hope this will be helpful, and to whom (anyone? New users?). You mentioned EVs but is it illustrative of
who actually keeps a lease to the end? (Few of us anymore)
what is leasing well? (This would sample what’s already in Signed and Signed Deals)
long term reviews of specific makes/models?
Adjacent: is there a request here for people to either update their “Signed Deals” post 18-48 months later to indicate the closeout transaction and their Long Term Garage review? Or a separate post (e.g. “Sold!”, “Grounded:”, “Towed from a Snowy Offramp”) when they trade the keys for an odometer statement?
I’m hoping for this thread to be another resource to inform used ev buyer the history of the car beyond what’s available from carfax or the dealer maintenance record. A PPO is a useful tool to buy used car, however unlike ICE, there’s not many who can evaluate a used ev right now. By sharing your experience on leased ev which you return, it will be a valuable information for others who may be interested to buy those in the used market.
There’s a slight difference. Owning the car 2-3 years you care about it since it’s yours and you want to keep it as pristine as possible for resale. A lease is a rental and resale value is irrelevant.
Car I own: Never leave in the sun, meticulously wash it in winter to prevent rust, for EVs don’t charge to 100%, for ICE, don’t idle for long periods of time. And so forth
Well, that’s you. Some people skip scheduled maintenance on purchased cars to save money or abuse them as rentals. I treat either car the same way - as I owe it. My point was that on average there is no difference. You won’t know the whole story, most likely.
I looked at a privately owned 3yo/30k miles car from Carmax. Looked great in the photos, with services performed. But it smelled vinegar and had scratches inside and outside (they had a dog riding in it, I think). And there was also some nasty chips on the hood. On the other hand, I sold my spotless leased 19 S60 with 9k miles in 2022
My X7 I own is always garaged. My AMG EQE is always parked outside. Neighbors must be thinking why am I parking this fancy car outside under the sun and bird shit all day.
Bargain bin EQS EV with magno paint is the clunker. It costs less than an Accord. Paying for a car wash would increase my monthly cost by like 10% haha.
Best part of magno paint is it always kind of looks dirty. At least I keep it away from bird droppings.