Even without a pandemic, those are lofty expectations for selling. Lease indeed wins, by a long-shot!
I disagree. Itās a low production car with a large lower income following. They are also making excellent numbers with simple bolt ons in the aftermarket. They will end up holding a steady value in the 40s or upper 30s. Buy use case will only improve over time.
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Donāt care that itās a supra, not worth over $600+ in lease payments especially in todayās market.
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Itās basically a z4 chassis, copy pasted with a Z4 M40i engine. Itās not a better value lease wise Iāll agree, but aesthetically and name plate wise, Iād prefer the Supra. M2s lease for more than 600/month and Z4s around 530, so if I was richer and looking for this kind of car, itās not a bad proposition, especially if you want the name prestige of Supra.
I was about to post the exact opposite. I think, if one were a brand snob, the Z4 would have more cachet than the Supra. Probably in the general population, 99.9% of the people looking at the two cars side-by-side would think the BMW was nicer and more expensive. personally, I would agree with them about the nicer part, and objectively they would be correct about the expensive part, at least as the MSRP goes.
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I honestly prefer the Supra any day of the week, and there is a niche for it, else Toyota wouldnāt have made it. However, I am a JDM suckerā¦
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Looking at those two photos @HersheySweet , I can see your point about the supraā¦It does have a more aggressive and racier look.
The snobby āwhat do others thinkā viewpoint (which letās be honest, is what causes most people to spend more than they need to for a car, LOL) is that if both of those pulled up in front of Bushwood country club, which one would have Judge Smails or Ty Webb in it? HAHAHAHAAš
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I donāt think the first z4 Pic shown gives it justice. I have had a lot of supras in my life and even considered getting the new one but I donāt think itās that attractive tbh. The new z4 is a more mature version of that car and has so much better technology and arguably service from the manufacturer?
Also the top goes down 
But back on topicā¦ With 50 extra horsepower and wireless carplay 2021 is such a better sell then the 2020.
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The BMW also comes with free loaners, some dealers come to your home/work, and thereās free maintenance. Thatās a true luxury car from a service standpoint.
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Dang, after seeing that Z4 in blue in the photos above, Iām searching the board for deals, LOL
Yeah, Iām waiting for the 2021 orders to open up so I can grab one that looks JUST like thatā¦ With the steering wheel on the left side of course.
I think the supra is the more interesting of the two designs, but I donāt know that itās going to age well
Definitely agree with you on that one. It is aggressive, but design language changes all the time, so who knows. If you told someone in the 80ās that cars will look the opposite the way they did then in just 20 years, they wouldāve called you crazy, and gone back to drawing a bajillion foot hood on an Eldorado.
There are some cars that age like wine and some that age like bread.
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2020 Supra donāt have wireless Apple car play??
Yes it does have wireless Carplay
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My bad, mis spoke there.
How is it your numbers end up so much higher than this guy. At 570/mo with 7k discount and