Off Topic Landfill

I see you started improving your grammar. Improvement is always good!

:sleeping::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping: me rn watching you talk to yourself

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don’t worry he will reply in 2 days. This guy is annoying asf, makes up facts worse than a news agency.

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I would certainly hope so, volvo is a premium brand.

Volvo is, yes, but they compete with Acura that shares the Honda tech.

I have 0 complaints to the technology. No issues with my Acura’s ACC.

and Toyota shares tech with Lexus, I consider infinti, acura, and lexus psuedo-luxury companies. Yeah the cars look better on the outside but when it’s all said and done the tech from the cheaper models carries over and so does certain parts of the powertrain. It’s like putting a sheep in wolf’s clothing so to speak.

My point was that someone may cross shop the Volvo’s with non-premium brands, so the comparison between the acc setups between Volvo and Honda may be relevant.

The Honda system doesn’t work bad, just not nearly as well.

No I get it, I feel like volvo should be held to a little higher standard but yes they compete with acura, lexus, and even bmw/mb.

I doubt anyone cares what you consider, mr.car expert :slight_smile: As in Acura’s case, a full sized 377 hp sedan is not a pseudo-luxury car. A pseudo luxury car is an A3, 2 series, etc. I compared many cars before getting the RLX (fully loaded hybrid). I drove the S90, A6, GS, but the Acura was an immediate yes from me. It was a much nicer package overall.

Could be. I did not even know that system was there until a week later. Didn’t get a chance to try it in the Volvo!

which acura car is outputting 377 hp? they are majority i4 and v6 n/a engines…

RLX Hybrid - look it up, lol.

that electric motor adds a ton of weight to the vehicle, it really isn’t 377 hp unless it’s all motor when you are comparing to things like the 540 which is roughly the same base price.

Electric motor saves on fuel economy but often causes sluggish response to the car and the added weight makes steering these cars in low speed areas feel extremely heavy and like a boat such as in parking lots.

Furthermore how many units does acura actually sell of the rlx hybrid, at a base price of 61k most people are going 5 series, e class or even an a6.

As far as luxury goes, Infiniti is left in the dust on technology, acura and lexus do their best to keep up but when a large majority of your models are missing/don’t have heads up display, massaging seats, updated semi-autonomous driving, average at best safety features, cookie cutter exterior lines across the model, confusing twin touch screen and infotainment in general, weak powertrain across the board aside from the hybrid models, and an above average interior then how can you call the a luxury car when you are comparing them to stuff like the a6,e class, 5 series. I guess psuedo-luxury triggers people so maybe premium car is the better option( go to a rental car site and that’s what they are listed under, mb/bmw are typically under luxury cars.)

Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti are very good at what they do, they know their market and they price accordingly. You will notice most of their models are priced slightly above their parent company’s models but well below the german vehicles. The Japanese cars carry that extremely reliable powertrain from the parent company and thus when people buy they aren’t afraid to have expensive issues like German car owners do as most of their parts are the exact same as their sister model.

If I were to buy a car and not trade it in after 3 years and hold it for 7-10 years, 100% I would go acura or lexus but with leasing you are covered bumper to bumper for the warranty, on top of that bmw is currently leasing very well and is the new craze, why would you pay the same or more money for long term reliability on a short term lease,

Acura and lexus are absolutely outclassed by the germans in the tech game and powertrain game, it’s always been this way, we once had a 2004 acura tl and an e class at the same time, that e class has features that are now or were introduced to the acura “tlx” at the beginning of this decade and even some stuff acura still doesn’t offer i.e massaging seats, air suspension, etc. etc.

Hope “mr.expert” has cleared things up for you.

The 540i xdrive weighs about the same. Regarding technology, can’t find a single feature my car lacks, in comparison to a similar 5 series. Glad I don’t need to pay extra for Apple Car Play subscription and cooled seats.

My car is anything but sluggish, and it’s a beast off the line and gets to triple speeds quickly. You must have never driven a GS450h.

Unit wise I have not looked at the statistics. I will bet the Camry outsells each one.

I had a 2006 Infiniti M45S as my first car, and it would leave everything in the dust, back in the day. I would gladly get a new one, with 5.6 liter engine. Infiniti does have HUD (look it up).
I think iDrive is confusing. I liked Audi MMI, and I am loving the Acura’s set up. Infiniti’s setup works good for me. I had few as rentals and enjoyed them.

Those features you listed are almost all found in the new Accord Touring. HUD, cooled seats, semi autonomous driving, and more.

You are saying Acura is outclassed, but don’t have a single point to prove it.

You are not an expert, lol.

ok well thanks for the input, I see we are arguing again about german vs japaneese again, you and I both know who you are :sleeping::sleeping:.

Wake me up when acura offers massaging seats and air suspension.

In the meantime I’ll be slapping your little riceburner friends in the gs450h that goes 0-60 in 5.6 seconds and the rlx hybrid that goes 0-60 in 4.9.

Off to the landfill like the rest of our posts. :wave:

@chrishs2000 you know the drill.

how long did you keep your e500? both camshaft positioning sensors went bad on the e500 and e55 before either hit 70k miles. Brutal when you have to get towed to dealer :man_facepalming:

I picked it up with about 32,000 miles on it (lease return) and sold it with almost 140,000. Roughest patch was between ~55,000-75,000, and it was all brake and suspension issues. I once blew through $8k in eight weeks.

The subwoofer also failed, but I had it unhooked rather than get an OEM for ~$1,200. Best Buy wouldn’t touch it for liability reasons (“Sir, your car doesn’t have an electrical system it has a fiber optic network…”).

:joy::joy::joy: fiber optic network.

Biggest issue with the e55 is the fkn air suspension, ended up getting a lifetime warranty because dealer got tired of seeing us complain on a car they sold brand new, e500 was a dream with the suspension. I think it roughly has 70k miles on it(went inside the family) and only issues were engine mounts and the alternator, the alternator is garbage on these.

e55 still drives like it did when it was brand new( I’ll take parents word on that, I was 9/10 when the car came out :zipper_mouth_face:) Overall I would say 4-6k spent on the e55 in the past 6 years. And probably 3-5k in the 6 years of owning the e500.