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Quentin,
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Thanks,

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You should really know what you’re talking about before mouthing off.

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Closed the deal for 2019 Bolt Premier MSRP $43,300. got 15% dealer discount on MSRP, plus $2,500 GM incentives, plus $1,000 Emp. discount, so total 10k off MSRP, selling price of around 34k plus 3.5k of taxes and fees. $37,500 out the door.
I am only eligible for 7.5k federal tax benefit and no other state rebates on EVs so it will turn out $30,000 after tax benefits for brand new premier Bolt.
Looks like I managed good deal on purchasing Bolt, and that too in state of Arizona!!

Sorry, but Trophy Garage is for leases only.

What is wrong with the CVT? One of the quickest and most efficient cars in it’s class.

CVTs will always be trash because they’re held back for the exact opposite purpose of what they were originally designed for. CVTs were first introduced by the Williams F1 team in the ‘94 (maybe ‘93?) Grand Prix to reduce shift times.

It was an absolute monster and was banned by the FIA for the following race season. CVTs of today are trash compared to what it was originally designed for.

All for the sake of efficiency and fuel economy… but the transmission programming from Nissan and Infiniti especially never seem to get it right. Almost as bad as a 10-speed automatic from Toyota or Ford. Constantly hunting for the right gear ratio and you end up losing fuel efficiency to real world driving.

You can say that about s-tronic/DSG also, and Acura’s 9 speed. List keeps going.

Don’t like it, don’t buy it. Have not heard about Infiniti QX50 CVT failures, but they have the same fail rate as most other gearboxes. Yes they were undeveloped at first, but now they provide best efficiency and response.

No one here is arguing about their reliability.

You’re right, I don’t have to buy it and I never have and never will. I have yet to see an application of a cvt superior to dual clutch or torque converter when it comes to driving experience.

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Driving experience is again subjective. Some people like smooth and responsive driving characteristics. CVT will still be faster than any transmission, since it does not shift. Plain physics. No matter how fast your automatic gearbox is, the CVT is still faster.

I really doubt you driven cara with good CVT’s. The QX50 is solid.

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every Forum has a troll…

Consumer CVTs have artificial shift points. Defeats the purpose of a CVTs advantage over traditional torque converter… they’re not faster when employed this way.

PDK, DSG, and ZF Automatic torque converters are all superior in regards to driving performance.

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Nothing wrong per say. It does its job and Nissan has it really dialed in now. Its reasonably quick “shifting” with paddles too. Just anytime I hop into a car with a traditional auto or a DCT is is more engaging. And also the CVT just sounds terrible to me.

But to give Nissan some credit this is hands down the best CVT I have driven in my long list of CVT’s.

The troll you are reffering to is yourself? I see you have no clue about CVT’s. Most cars with CVT’s have modes where they do not mimic shift points for maximum acceleration. Few weeks ago you were calling the Altima sound shit because it was not imitating shifts. Come on dude, get real. PDK? Lol. We are talking about midsize SUV’s, not race cars. FYI, DSG’s have lots of fails…and you never mentioned Aisin (prejudice)

I am not going to reply anymore to you.
Get another reliable Kia, and enjoy it😊

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You are confusing me with someone else? Never said the Altima sound was shit because of the shifting?

Can you go back and show me where I said that?

Also, the Stinger was mechanically reliable. Beat the hell out of the car and it never hiccuped once for me. The paint is another story, would have kept the car if it didn’t mean the depreciation curve wouldn’t have been as steep.

I happen to know a fair amount about modern transmissions. I find it interesting that you don’t understand what the artificial shift points actually do to a CVT. Oh well, not really a battle worth fighting.

Quickest? It’s slower than base Audi to 60 and ties base X3. And both those cars have bigger engine options. What else are you comparing it too. It’s slower than mid range XC60 too.

As for MPG, C&D writes, “The good news is that Infiniti beats all of the 2.0-liter turbo fours in its segment. Bad news? This isn’t an end-zone-dance win. Comparing to their AWD versions, the QX50 bests the combined number of the 2.0-liter-powered Audi Q5 and BMW X3 by 1 mpg. A win is a win though, and who doesn’t love a good Rube Goldberg machine?”. One MPG is insignificant and may well not even be statistically significant.

There is a reason these QX50s cost way less fully loaded than German equivalent. They compete by offering strong value for money. But if money is no object I’d be buying German.

Keep in mind I bought a CVT Accord so money is an object for me and I don’t have an anti CVT agenda especially for horrible urban commuting (no transmission is gonna make my wife’s 4 mile 40 minute commute anything other than terrible).

never care about whatever the transmission is in a car, there is a product then there is a market. But, @darfsalot @StingerTT @EC99, just because you can dislike something, means no one can like it? congrats on the new car @Icecold911 enjoy.

No, anyone is free to like what they want.

This is a public community and I was expressing my opinions on CVTs.

However, to me most of the debate came from a contrarian point of view and not a sincere one.

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@max_g, this guy will never learn.

There’s a history with the guy who brought up CVTs to begin with after someone indicated they didn’t want one. He also trashes German cars, despite searching for months for one. Consistently derailing threads to show his fanboyism toward Nissan while attempting to shut down anyone else who has an opinion different from his.

Don’t take offense. I’m sure there was none intended.