I don’t know if this really helps
A lot has changed on the hyundai/kia quality front in the past 20 years…
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Oh yeah, for sure!
I honestly never expected Telluride’s to sell like hot cakes within Kia’s dealers. I’ve actually driven the EX trim on a test drive and just wow is all I can say.
See more: https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-kia-telluride-sales-nickname-selluride/
You sure about that?
First of all, what does you being Korean have to do with anything?
Secondly, who is paying that German designer? Last time I checked, Ford’s chief designer was from Scotland and had also held that role at Mazda? Where were you going with that?
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First, since you guys seemed to be defending Korean products, I am presenting my view and criticism on Korean product from a Korean perspective. Now, I might be biased and I get it. But what I am saying is most of Koreans don’t drive Kia and Hyundai in America. If they have family, they drive Odyssey and Sienna. If they had to pick the sedan, they drive either Camry and Accord. If they have money, they drive MB or BMW.
Second, Peter Schreyer is no longer with Kia. But when he was with the company, he made a huge transformation on K-3 through K-900 designs, both interior and exterior and that boosted the company’s sale. What I am saying is, before Schreyer’s arrival to the company, there was no advance in design whatsoever.
Camry is #1 selling sedan in America and it has reasons why. Optima or K-5 is not even in the TOP 10 list.
I faced some heats defending Japanese product in front of Koreans and even my dad. And it’s been hard defending their product over Korean ones.
I have been following JD Power rankings since 1990, and I have never known them to do “in house” product testing on cars. I’m not even really sure how you could do “in-house product testing” on reliability for all car models for sale in the US.
But it should. The reliability of newer Hondas and Acura is really umimpressive, actually.
That article mentions nothing about the US government requiring Hyundai/Kia to extend its powertrain warranties.
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I’ve got a Hyundai and a honda in the driveway. Guess which one is headed to the shop for warranty work next week?
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The Hyundai?
Nope. Passport is suffering from Honda suv infotainment-itis. Seems most of the pilots, passports, and odysseys are infected with it.
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Dodge was ranked number 1. That is all that needs to be said about J.D. Power.
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I don’t think JD Power is the be-all-end-all. And I don’t Consumer Reports or True Delta are infallible, either.
But looking at all 3 to see if there is any overlap might be helpful.
Kia is top 10 from Consumer Reports and in the upper half at True Delta. Dodge did well in CR reliability surveys and Jeep/Ram did well at True Delta.
I would never buy a Dodge, but I doubt Kia and Dodge are paying off JD Power, CR, and True Delta.
Reallly? Which models?
That may be so, but how does Tesla do so poorly after Elon says that he will not be partaking in their surveys. I am not saying that causation = correlation, but just food for thought.
CR reports on brand-wide reliability, as well as individual models. I just looked up their most current post at brand reliability (and I didn’t look at specific models). Too lazy to look up individual models since Dodges don’t interest me much.
I think Tesla’s permission is only needed for certain states (while owners in other states are presumably allowed to participate w/o needing Tesla’s permission?). CR doesn’t mention the Tesla-needs-to-give permission part of it, so maybe their surveys are legally different as a non-profit? And JD Power still collected data from states in which permission wasn’t needed (but didn’t give Tesla an official “rank” b/c of the consent issue).
Edmunds has released their own review of the new K5. Supposedly confirmed by Edmunds editor Mark Takahashi it will be in the “top 3” with the Accord and Mazda 6.
I don’t sell Toyotas or Kias. I try to measure each car on it’s own merits.
Lol…sorry, the sarcasm of that last post got lost in text…I’m the “unbiased guy who doesn’t sell Toyotas”