MY23 Infiniti QX80 Sensory 4WD Lease Quote sheet- Need help breaking down the deal

Lease sheets have always been a challenge for me. But I can work leases and have a decent understanding. 1st attempt by dealer: The total monthly seemed a bit high and didn’t match LH Calc. After a few minutes, I discovered the Dealer Cash that was supposed to go towards the selling price was being used for the $1600 DAS, leaving only $400 of the 2k for the selling price or cap cost. I told him I wanted to pay the DAS myself and have the DC used for the selling price, as we discussed. That change brought my LH Calc down to $740 mo. But my LH Calc. is off, but more importantly, I need help deciphering this lease sheet, please.

Dealers Comments
Below is the screenshot using 9 Security deposits. I’m showing $1,600 due at signing (in addition to the $8,550 security deposit) that we are not collecting as part of the dealer cash. So the total due at signing is $10,150 but only $8,550 from you. The other $400 is discounted on the selling price."

*** 1st Quote Sheet***


I put them together for easier comparison. But the post discussing 2nd Quote is below.

*** 2nd Quote Sheet***

The original selling price was supposed to be quoted without incentives, and I WAS CLEAR about it, but his assumption was I was a finance or cash pay, not a lease. So we agreed on $81,400, and then I explained I wanted the DC to reduce to $79,400, the final selling price. That’s when things went south when he “realized” I was leasing. He was trying to base the final selling at $81,400, but I knew that being at $79400 would benefit me in the lease. However, he wasn’t going for it because of the loss they were taking. So he still factored the lease with $81,400 and used the dealer cash for the DAS and the rest as a discount. But I caught it and told him to change it, and he did and then sent the second sheet. I’m still getting something wrong on the LH Calc and need help deciphering it. Any help or advice, but mainly I need to know if these figures look correct or what?
When I questioned the factoring explanation, I didn’t think all the numbers were on the sheet. So I’m still getting a different number on the LH Calc.

Dealer Comments
Yes. The selling Price is $81,000, using $1,600 as cash down and not collecting it and selling at $79,400 net. That’s using the 2k. If I would have known it was a lease I would have told you $80,400, but as I said, I’d honor it. Leonard gave me an earful about it too, lol. It is losing $4,692.79. *** I"m confused about the selling price because now he is saying $81000 when originally it was $81,400 - DC 2k + $79400

Dealer Comments
It does work out better for you. Selling Price $79,400. $7,650 security deposit from you. $1,339.41 DAS + $7,650 security for a total of $8989.41.
2nd Quote Sheet

See notes at the Bottom of the LH Sheet.

Might be my device, but fwiw I can’t see the images you posted.

The pictures dont work for me either

Yeah, they aren’t posted correctly please upload them again. When you create a post you can see a live preview of what it will look like when you submit it.

Is that better? When I dragged them into the screen, they appeared. Sorry about that.
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There’s not much difference between the 2 deal structures. By paying the $1340 DAS, you’ve paying ~$142 less over the entire lease, due to taxes and interest.

If any clarifications are needed or more info, let me know. Also, I know enough to negotiate a great deal! I can calculate leases and learn how to gather information. I’ve seen lease quote sheets before, but something is left off. For instance, sheet one Selling price lists $81000. The DC is being used to cover $1600 of the DAS fees. The remaining $400 is not shown but reflected in the Selling price because the agreed-upon was $81,400. So the DC would come off that.

In Quote Sheet 2, the DC =$2K has been moved from the fees to the Selling price. That is the actual agreed-upon price, thus reducing my lease figures and saving nearly 1k on an MSD. I wasn’t happy about that. Now here is where I am trying to find the missing $600 from the DC. If $1600 was allocated on the far right of the sheet on fees and the remaining $400 reduced my original price of $81 400 to $81,000, why is there a discount amount of $163 at the bottom of Quote Sheet 1? Now on Quote Sheet 2, if $1600 is to be taken back and applied to the $81,000 as it has already been reduced from $81,400 to $81,000 on Quote Sheet 1, why and where did the rest of the money go? Instead of $79,000, it’s $79,400 on Quote Sheet 2.
To add to the confusion, the attached LH Calc. Has a different figure.

See when I calculated each lease to see if there was a difference. The 1st Sheet (higher payment) totaled $14068.86 (17mo pay ). Total Lease

2nd Sheet ( lower payment) totaled $13925.97 (17mo pay + DAS 1,339.41). Total Lease
The difference of $142.89, and I saved nearly 1k on the MSD. I realize I might be completely wrong, but the figures I described are missing, which I mentioned in the post. Learning why I am wrong is part of the process if that is the case. But my math seems to make sense, but then again, you guys are the experts.

Lastly, I feel it’s a solid deal, regardless. However, I need to find that “missing” money.
A competing dealer with more volume bowed out after this quote.

You aren’t paying $1600 DAS on the 1st deal. You are only paying the MSDs at signing.

Ok, I got it. I have looked at these numbers for so long, and I just had $1600 stuck in my head for so many days. Thanks. So about that “missing” $400, where did I miss it?

So the $142 and 1k MSD saved is ok for me too.

Also, as to the deal’s structure and overall outcome? Thoughts? Solid deal for a $90k SUV?

All that info was in the dealer’s email to you.

I’ve poured over those figures for a long time, But finally, I just saw the connection to the selling price.

Did you notice anything else I should be aware of? I felt it was wise to do this, to use the DC as a cap—cost reduction on the 2nd Quote. I didn’t have the experience to figure out how the structure was different immediately. It would have taken me a while. I felt the dealer did it that way to have more profit. Is there another motive/benefit to the way they structured Quote 1? You said I saved $143, and then there’s the 1k MSD lower, but what did the dealer lose, if anything, by changing it to Quote 2? I understood that using the DC to lower the final selling would yield a better Monthly payment. Not listing those things on the sheet, the discount, and DC made me suspicious. I want to be proven wrong to learn to spot these things.

Have you ever stared and found the most straightforward thing perplexing, only to realize it was always right there?

That is why it’s very weird, they DID show in the preview pane.

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