I feel bad for all those second owner corvettes out there, I’m pretty sure he at least rotates the tires because they will start to wear our unevenly especially after 10-15k miles, also he is what I would call a cheap pos owner. If you drive an expensive car have the common decency to take care of the car regardless of if you lease if or buy it.
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Point of leasing: who cares about who owns the car or the next owner
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I don’t think one can rotate tires on Corvette since they are staggered
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wow, that is cheap, in Fairfax VA, they charge 800 for A service LOL
E class non AMG if that makes any matter
I said I feel bad, no offense but your buddy is a real pos, cars work hard for you and in return they should be taken care of, I probably feel this way because im a car guy or maybe I was taught to respect stuff I “buy.” He must be one of those guys that never takes it to the track lol, street warriors smh.
I’m well aware they are staggered. Im running staggered on my charger atm, 295 front and 305 rear, you can still rotate tires from side to side, on the front tires it makes a world of difference because they are moving, on the back it may or may not bite you but you will kick yourself if one side wears out more unevenly than the other,(it just forces you to buy another tire)
I was advised from rotating side to side on my BMW. Go figure
what buddy?
wasn’t paying attention to who posted what but my point was toward the other guy, I thought the point of leasing was “pay for what you use.”
also depends on if the car is driven harsh or not, different schools of thought on rotating staggered tires I guess, I do know that some people tend to favor right or left turns over the other based on their daily routes and for that reason if the car is staggered then it helps wear out both tires unevenly for the front, the rear tires dont turn so not much of a difference I guess.
That’s way cheaper than the pricing here which typically runs $300+ for A service and $600+ For B service. That is why I go to Indy shop which is 50% less or less. IMO the only significant problem with Indy service is that they do not do warranty or recall work so you still have to visit a dealer for the software updates etc.
Also was very displeased that my sales team never told me my first A service was free - learned this from the service guy after I had it done elsewhere.
Not to stray further OT, but it may also depend on whether they’re unidirectional tires
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The problem is that the maintenance plans are BS and a profit center for these companies. On A previous bmw I had, the oil change “adaptive” tracker didn’t tell me to do an oil change until almost 20k miles if I remember correctly. Now in that car, maintenance is incl in the lease so effectively bmw pays for it. When it’s their money, they don’t care to do an oil change for almost 20k miles. On a Mercedes for example, where customer pays for service, you would been asked for expensive “oil changes” way before because they don’t care, you pay for it, they can make a nice profit from a effectively $400 oil change and the car is kept well oiled.
At the end of the day nobody cares about the cars, it’s all about $. I’ve had cars in the past that didn’t have free maintenance and I would only do cheap $30 oil changes and that’s it. A new car shouldn’t have any issues first 3 years or 30k miles if you change oil a few times, paying $400 for an oil change and “inspection” is redic. That’s why leasing is so great, keep swapping out cars, long term issues aren’t my problem.
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I don’t think @305Hackr is saying not to take care of the car, but be realistic about it. 7500 mile oil change is acceptable minimum range with today’s synthetic blends, if you’re paying for it. There’s no need to baby the car like you’re going to keep it for the next 20 years though. Do what’s required, don’t go to the dealership for service (unless they’re paying for it), and move on. If the tires meet minimum spec at turn in, turn it in with them.
That said, nobody has ever asked me for receipts on maintenance done on any of my leased cars in the last 20+ years of leasing. I could’ve turned it in with the same oil I bought it with (with a couple top offs here and there) and nobody would have asked.
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couldn’t have said it better
maintenance plans are pure profit but maintenance itself is not, 5k,6k,7k the new trucks can even go 10k miles without a change, but at the end of the day it shouldn’t matter whether you got an oil change from bmw or from local mechanic/yourself. Tire rotations save you money at the end of a lease by being worn out evenly and not needed to replace.Not sure why your bmw did that but seems like either you had a large oil reserve or a faulty sensor, jury is out on that one but you get the point im trying to make and I see what you are saying as well.
I agree with your points but servicing your vehicle is really for you, so that you for example you dont get an engine knock 10-20k miles down the road and be responsible for the cost of the engine, that moron up there talking about the corvette was essentially saying maintenance was useless which it was not, I suspect he’s exaggerated greatly but dealerships will be always in it to make money on service plans, dealer add ons, etc you just have to learn to say no to them at the finance office and then do oil change and tire rotation on a standard 20-40k lease wherever you feel like it, whether it be a jiffy lube or a pep boys, or your local mechanic, that’s the beauty of a lease the maintenance can be done by pretty much anybody because its so simple.
i asked service dept at the time if it’s correct, they told me “yes, it bases the time for an oil change on your driving style”. I told him “i drive it hard”, he said “just follow what it says”. It ends there for me.
large oil reserve it is, well you saved a couple of hundred bucks and you don’t have to deal with the car lol.
free maintenance = zero cost anyway.
On newer cars, these guys don’t know what to do anyway. If the computer says there’s a problem, they replace the part, no questions asked. If there is a problem and the computer says it’s fine, they don’t know what to do and claim “it’s not like in the old days where you can just made adjustments” and you’re left with just having to “Iive with it”. Another reason to lease, you only have to deal with a car for a short time. I didn’t like that car at all, was glad to get rid of it.