Mazda CX 30 Turbo Premium Good Deal? Offer/deal check

Mass/nh looking for see if there might be more wiggle room from the dealers on these cars I am looking to buy, not lease - may finance balance after trade bu tnot sure.

  1. Dealer service car , cx 30 turbo premium with 2000 miles with CPO warranty included; currently at $31.2 plus $600 taxes/fees, less a trade in on my car for $13.5k; I think i can get more on the trade in as I’ve gotten more in the $14.4 - $14.6 trade in estimates (2018 BMW 330iX M sport package with 75K miles, one owner, super clean and very well maintained, new tires within past 6 months, allways serviced)
    I am curious if the $31.2 have any room left to negotiate.
    I’ll either pay cash on the balance or finance it with them if they get me @ 5% or close on the loan, which I suspsect they can do and if not, then I will refi it as I can get close to 5% with my bank.

  2. same car, 2023 with 11,500 miles, listing at $27.995, also a CPO with the 100K mile warranty.

Not really a leasing question.

How much is Carvana and CarMax offering for your BMW? Start there and use that as a negotiating point

#2 is a used car, so nobody can tell you what the value is. $28k for a used 2+ year old CX30 seems steep. #1 is a loaner, so they can decide the discount. Hard to say what the bottom is because neither of these are new cars with a known invoice price etc.

Typically on this forum, we’re bargain hunters. Why drive something sensible like a CX30 when you could lease hack a Charger Daytona for $200-300/mo, or hack an Acura ZDX for sub $400/mo, or a Cadillac Lyric etc. Typically on this forum we’re trying to score high $ cars for low monthly payments through atypical rebates, lease residuals, etc.