Luxury cars, can't learn to love them

It has all the bell and whistles . If he tried out a base model audi or bmw it would feel like going from something good to trash

it would feel like going from something good to trash

Wow, this is quite a strong statement.

Let’s dive in a bit more, take Outback Touring (the most expensive trim) and a base X5 45e. I glanced at the Outback’s standard feature and beside the EyeSight® Driver Assist Technology, the bimmer has everything else the Outback offers.

Now drive train and suspension: the Subaru has CVT, 182 hp / 176 lb-ft. The bimmer offers 389 hp / 443 lb-ft, with air suspension. If a driver can’t recognize this difference alone, I’m struggle to understand what will: a Lambo SUV?

This is a very debatable topic…

“should I get a loaded V6 Accord Touring with all bells and whistles or a stripped BMW 3 series”

I’m not going to get into the specifics etc but in this scenario the 3 series will overall have better driving dynamics than a Honda, whether it be better handling, quieter, better driving experience etc.

OP states he can’t tell the difference which tells me he just wants a “transportation appliance “ with a lot of options etc.

FYI, there is a big difference :blush:.

Also, don’t forget the enormously better service you’ll get from the luxury brands. It’ll be “good morning Mr Vicont, we have your courtesy loaner ready for you, vs “it should be about 2-3hrs for your oil change and you can wait in our waiting lounge and help yourself to free tap water”

You get the drift…

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They don’t give you a loaner for an oil change.

Who doesn’t?

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So called luxury dealerships.

They most certainly do, you’re wrong

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I have two BMWs that are garaged 2,000 miles apart (and therefore obviously not serviced at the same dealer).

Both dealers give me a loaner when I get an oil change.

One car is new/leased (maintenance included) the other is CPO/purchased (maintenance is my expense).

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Wanna bet?

They definitely do. I got a loaner for an oil change on a Range Rover . Took only about 2 hours and still they gave it . Toyota dealerships on the other hand don’t give anything. Left my car for a full day and max they offered was a bus pass :slightly_smiling_face:

Never got a loaner at Audi, Volvo, MB, Porsche, or Cadillac (ok maybe doesn’t count) on an oil change. Maybe I’m not asking properly.

Where do you live :flushed:. Do they offer you a Uber home at least

That was Sacramento area. Yep I always get the courtesy shuttle or a Uber/Lyft.

This…even Volkswagen has a full time dude running a shuttle, but only for that given town. If you’re from another town, you wait, drink horrid coffee, and stroll auto row for a few hours.

Volkswagen is a luxury company? Or it’s like a beginner that brings you in

Based on my experience I’d never use the loaner benefit to step into a luxury brand. The waiting rooms are nicer at least.

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Decidedly non-luxury…(it’s in their name). I suppose they don’t have enough margin in oil changes like the ‘Lux’ brands to loan out a vehicle for it.

Nor would I. It’s too much hassle anyway, I just do my own oil changes…takes less than 15 minutes, and maybe a few more clicking links on Amazon.

This. (Experience with BMW only)

Maybe depends on how the service is doing schedule & load wise.

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Besides free maintenance on a lot of luxury brands, by not going into the dealership you’re missing out on any software updates, or any TSBs.

My last Ford had 7 or 8 oil changes at the dealer (I would night drop and Uber/Lyft back when it was done), I don’t think it was ever “just an oil change” - they did some small warranty work every visit that improved something.

My Volvo has been in service 3 times in 2 years, every visit got a software update I could not do myself.

For the brands that typically offered loaners: a lot has changed a lot in the last 18 months. Many dealers don’t have the cars to spare to put into loaner service. Lots of reports here that they didn’t get a loaner, or it has to be in service 1+ days, or they got a rental from Enterprise or Uber credits.

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