Apparently, 2-spoke steering wheels are becoming a thing. I like the design inside and out otherwise, though. Wonder if brand reliability will suffer w/ so many new models coming out…
Makes me like the ioniq 5 more.
Does that model have the ‘supercharger’ yet?
I really do wonder why doesnt Kia and Hyundai consolidate into a single brand for ICE and another for EVs.
Because Hyundai doesn’t own Kia 100%
I actually both designs a lot. They have a concept-car cool to them. The Hyundai has a bit of a retro feel to it, while the Kia seems quite sleek. And they both look so different from each other that I would not have guessed that they were on the same platform.
What is the relationship btw the 2 companies? I always thought Hyundai was the parent company for some reason.
Hyundai seems to own about 1/3rd of Kia
The kia to me has that look of an EV trying too hard to be a EV. It’s like it has to be weird shaped to be accepted as an EV. And yet, you have an interior that doesn’t actually take advantage of any of the benefits of the EV architecture. It’s like form trying to look like it follows function without actually being informed by the function.
Is that weird of a shape, though? I mean, if you just look at the silhouette, I think it looks like a big hatchback… which is what it is, in essence. Some of the details are reminiscent of a first-gen Leaf (which I actually was quite attractive).
Is the main interior benefit a totally flat floor (incl no need for a transmission tunnel)? Not sure if the center console is of the floating-type. If so, it may still take advantage of most of the packaging advantages of an EV.
I also prefer the Telluride to the Palisade, so may just have very diff taste.
I think it’s the d pillar/rear 3/4 that bothers me the most. With the wheels pushed to the corners, you open up a bunch of storage space and then chop it all off without the styling flair to go with it. I agree that it is reminiscent of the leaf, and that’s kinda the point. With the leaf, they tried to style it to be an ev, rather than being a compelling vehicle that takes advantage of it being an ev.
They’ve definitely said that the ev6 doesn’t get the floating/sliding console set up from the ioniq 5. I would be curious to see a packaging overlay of the two vehicles to compare interior proportions.
BTW yes this model has the ‘supercharger’ 350wh
You mean CCS, DC Fast charging? It’s my belief ALL PHEV’s need this in 2022. It’s Jeep’s fatal flaw, imho.
What’s the use case for DC fast charging on a phev? Who is going to go out of their way to find a DC fast charger every 25 miles? It doesn’t make sense.
/raises hand
There is a mostly unused Electrify America complex in my local banks parking lot. Always spots available. All CCS or better. no j1772. So I have to charge 4xE at Target, or a city owned parking garage, which is always hit and miss, and usually filled with Teslas, even though there is also a mostly unused Supercharger complex about a mile away. I also need an hour (lunch break) to get about 12 miles of range, when CCS would take me less than 10 minutes. Jeep should have CCS, plain and simple.
And how much would it cost you? You’re going to go out of your way to the bank to fast charge for 10 minutes to save $0.50?
It wouldn’t matter, but I charge for free 90% of the time. All of the chargers I use, and the EA complex are mere blocks apart, and I currently have to cruise between them to find an open plug. Time savings alone justifies whatever electrical reconfig Jeep would need to do (off the shelf components by now, eg. Bolt) to make them charge fast. You’ll see when yours arrives, when away from home (I can’t charge at home at all), and your less than 1%, it will annoy you that you are 2.25 hours away from a full charge, esp. when there are CCS plentiful and empty, and full in 20 minutes.
Or I’ll just hop in and drive it and not worry about charging when I’m out.
Unless I happen to come across a charger in the same parking lot as where I’m already going, mine will never get charged other than at home.
That’s how I approached it at first. But as you well know across several Jeep fora, once you get used to battery, you want it in EV mode as much as possible, even to the point you get pissed when the engine comes on. lol
I’m coming from an e-tron, so electric use isn’t unfamiliar.
Plugging into a DC fast charger isn’t the panacea you’re making it out to be. You’re basically tethering yourself to the vehicle for 10 minutes for 20 minutes of range. Can’t just park, plug it in, and go in somewhere because you’ll end paying by the minute for idle fees, after paying ad much in electricity as you’d pay in gas.
As far as I know, only the evoque phev and the outlander phev can DC fast charge. I’d love to see how much that feature actually gets used.
4xE is my first ‘ev’, but I’ve learned range anxiety can be replaced by plug anxiety… I’d happily use CCS daily.