Haven’t gotten too much info, but local dealership has an advertised lease of $2999 total drive off (including first, title, license, etc) and $349/mo plus tax for a new 2017 XF 20d with an MSRP of $53,432. 36 months, 7.5k/yr. I know the total drive off has to include some CCR, and it’s high, but still… That’s the advertised price, so I’m sure there’s some meat on the bones… If they’d come down to $1500-$2000 total drive off, that’s not a bad deal for a $53k car… Are they just giving these away now?
They are down to $2k drive off, $344/mo plus tax ($376/mo with tax). For a $53k Jaguar…
Dealer information please…
Is this in CA?
americans sure dont like their diesel
Rusnak Pasadena. But I’m likely pulling the trigger at Hornburg, with a few hundred more up front, because they have the color combo I want with the options I want.
Here’s what I’m probably doing at Hornburg:
2017 Jag XF 20d
36/7.5k
$53,432 MSRP
$2500 drive off
$349/mo, plus tax.
Scheduled maintenance included
Deal on the table at Rusnak Pasadena:
2017 Jag XF 20d
36/7.5k
$53,083 MSRP
$2000 drive off
$344/mo, plus tax.
$680 more, over the course of 3 years, to love the color and configuration, and have maintenance covered, seems like a worthwhile investment.
I love my diesels. I had a 2013 Passat TDI, and I currently have a 2015 BMW 535d. You can’t beat the fuel economy, power, and fuel price (in LA its consistently 25-50 cents cheaper per gallon than premium)… I don’t know what Americans don’t like about it…
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In a lot of states diesel is significantly more expensive. If I can pay for regular in a car that gets the same mileage, where’s the incentive to pay more?
If you were talking about something like a Chevy Cruze diesel vs gas, you are right since the gas Cruze uses 87 octane. But luxury cars that require 91 octane or higher will have higher fuel costs, since diesel is always less than premium unleaded.
I have had both and am about to sell my X5 diesel and will miss it terribly. Our new E300 requires premium and I hate those pump prices, missing the days of picking up a green handle 
This is getting close to the 400+ effective payment for E300 or A6. So it’s not such a slam dunk. Will depend on which car you like better. In my mind, the base XE20d for around 250 is the better price/value IMHO
I believe all new Jags come with free maintenance (Jaguar EliteCare). Don’t be fooled that Hornburg is giving this to you for free.
I’ve been going back and forth with 3 MB dealers, 4 Audi dealers, and 3 Jag dealers. The effective monthly on the Jag is about $30 less than what I could get a comparable A6 for. And, for me, I can’t pay $400+ for a front wheel drive car. Plus I’ll save an additional $30/mo in gas. So, really, the A6 would cost me $60/mo more. As for the MB, I keep reading about these sub $450/mo deals but in SoCal, from what I’m experiencing, they are not playing ball like that here… They basically told me to piss off.
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I hear you on the XE being a better value. I just can’t stand the back end of it. It looks like they just gave up halfway through designing it…
Interesting. Rusnak never mentioned maintenance. And a friend of mine, who leased an XJ about 2 years ago, said his didn’t come with maintenance included. Is this a new program for Jag?
Seems to have started with 2016 MYs.
These are the two deals, apples to apples, after a few weeks of back and forth. And that’s before monthly gas savings.
Jag XF Premium 20d
$53,432 MSRP
$2500 drive off
$381/mo with tax.
Effective: $450/mo
Free maintenance
Total effective: $450/mo
Audi A6 2.0 FWD Season of Audi
$52,825 MSRP
$1800 drive off
$409/mo with tax
Effective: $459/mo
Audicare: $820
Total effective: $479/mo
Right, which is why i mentioned regular. The average American doesn’t use premium, and like priced diesels don’t usually compare unless you live in a state where diesel is cheaper, and even then they carry a price point premium you never earn back in fuel savings. If you get into diesels that eat urea additive, the price difference gets larger. Americans don’t hate diesel, there just isn’t a great enough incentive to buy one for the average consumer.
The average American with a luxury car that requires premium does purchase it, and most gas luxury cars with a diesel option, like those from MB, Jag, and BMW require premium. So you cannot compare a standard car that takes regular octane with a premium car that takes diesel. It’s not an apples to apples comparison. I doubt someone is cross shopping an XF 20d with an Impala. But they might be cross shopping an XF 20d with an A6 2.0, and the pump prices between the two are at least 10% if not higher, not to mention better mpg.
For me, I cross shopped the X5 35i with the X5 35d and it was no contest. But I wasn’t cross shopping a Tahoe or Expedition; if I was it would be different.
As far as the DEF, it’s available at any auto parts store for $15 and requires a top off every 10k miles or so, so the cost is not consequential.
I think we’re trying to argue different points here. Obviously there is a difference in markets as you say, I’m not trying to compare a Chevy to an Audi or the value present there. What I am arguing is that Americans in general do not ‘hate diesel,’ and that most people of middling means do not see any economic benefit from it.
Edit: sorry for so thoroughly hijacking this thread!
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Isn’t the Jag interior really cheap, especially compared to Audi?
The XE felt cheap. The XF Premium didn’t. At least not to me. And the Audi just feels a bit dated to me.