Jan 2022, will start to slowly improve in Sept/Oct, but can’t see it returning to normal until at least jan 2022
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My guess is that it’s not going to get back to those days with certain manufactures, at least not anytime soon.
They are figuring out that over producing cars isn’t always the best way to make the most profit. Especially if both their labor and supply prices keep inflating.
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That’s what I’m worried about. It’d like the big corporations doing less with more. They learn to do 2 or 3 times the job with less employees and now I think what you mentioned is a strong possibility that this chip shortage actually may change the entire market around. Maybe this is the learning curve manufacturers needed to change the entire market environment around in their favor. Consumers are usually more dumb than brilliant when it comes to purchases and if that’s the case we may never see another unicorn deal ever again.
if car makers are smart they will do this. This exact thing has happened in other industries and it works.
I would think that the lower priced sector sooner or later will try to undercut each other again and the cycle will reset. For example, a real recession will most likely change everything again. But for now, I think the conditions will be similar to this for a while.
As I write this I start wondering if there is a conspiracy behind these shortages, and this is all being done on purpose to cause inflation.
I think we can narrow the responses to 1 of 3 or 4 memes at this point
You don’t have to talk about me like I’m not here. It’s chaos-magick, just enjoy the ride 
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Wow! They’ve been hit pretty hard. It is interesting to see some dealers aren’t fairing so bad, then you see this guy.
inb4 labor day sale pricing request threads
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You’re exactly right. The return to “normal” I believe is going to be much further out than some choose to believe.
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Thankfully we still have a bunch of competition despite the consolidation that’s occurred. For every automaker that wants to keep inventory low, there will be a many which want to gain share. Yay free market.
Partially correct, except it’s in poor taste to purposely lower production when a huge chunk of your labor force is unionized. It won’t go over well in washington. at the end of the day, higher margins are great, but more profits are better. EPS is EPS, and how you got there doesn’t really matter.
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Plus, never underestimate the ability of a CEO’s ego to make stupid decisions. Sooner or later we will be back to d!ck measuring of
“Largest auto maker” GM, Ford, VW, Stella, etc
“Largest luxury auto brand” MB, BMW, Lexus, Audi
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And so on and so on for the title of “largest” in every category and niche, real or imagined, down to Hyundai claiming the crown for largest compact-based Ute builder.
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I think it’s impossible not hard I was asking about MB and I found one dealer who wanted to give me about 1k$ msrp. I was talking today with one on the mid west and I got same answer MSRP no deal.
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No idea about best time I just spoke with a MB dealer and he recommended me to extend my lease until March 2022. So most likely labor day is too optimistic date at this time to get a good deal. Additional data point: lease program (for some cars) for MB is worse in June compared to May.
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Hope you have not been still waiting … in August 2020 rates were still at zero and now …
Bumping three year old thread; no longer applies.