Tbh I don’t think it would even be bad if you did replace marketplace with PND and charged a fee to all the brokers / dealers on here. They’ve pretty much taken over this forum the past few years. Kind of annoying how most posts turn into “look at marketplace or talk to this broker” instead of people learning to make deals themselves. Marketplace is a bit of a mess and some brokers post pretty deceptive prices (ie post monthly with all incentives, no tax etc.etc. to look cheaper than another broker even though it’s the same deal). So it would be nice for the section to be replaced by something that is much more organized and straight forward with how all pricing should be laid out.
Anyways not attacking all brokers as some have been very helpful providing info for us forum users that self shop. But ya…
While I do agree that the posts should have +Tax + DMV, I think there should be some standardization to put everyone on the same playing field.
List the sales price + payment with only the incentives EVERYONE qualifies for + Tax and DMV, which would be variables. List the potential incentives one MAY qualify for (Conquest, loyalty, etc…) as optional that can be added into the deal to make it better.
That way, there’s transparency, and everyone can see who truly has the “better” deal.
Right now, Broker A might include conquest or loyalty in their price, which someone doesn’t necessarily qualify for, however their monthly payment looks better. Broker B doesn’t add conquest or loyalty, their payment looks higher, but it might actually be the better deal.
Pgh proper is 10% (Allegheny county). All other counties surrounding Pgh is 9%
Thanks to all who inquired about participating in PND.
The current PND placement is a trial run to gauge feedback and feasibility, and we’re still working out the details, learning along the way. The original announcement on this thread was intended more for a general audience. We’ll separately reach out to dealers and brokers in the beginning of the new year with more details on how to participate, including answers to the more technical or procedural questions that folks have raised here.
This a great idea and anything that increases transparency and openness into car buying should be encouraged.
This will also raise the bar for some of the lower effort brokers who do not add as much value. I have no doubt the brokers who do it right will continue to thrive on LH.
if I pull doc fee and acq fee out of my deals then all my prices look $50+ a month cheaper. I feel like that should be included in the advertised price as they’re set numbers.
More so advertise that Tax is not included. There’s just a lot of variation in how people do their ads on marketplace and obviously some of it is purposely misleading to look cheaper than the next guy etc. Not just focusing tax which obviously is hard to include in pricing.
It’s just premium ad space for brokers. All you have to do is go into the marketplace and use the so cal tag, there are tons of dealers/brokers who operate in your area.
