You can text me at 626-646-9882 but RS3, RS5’s are not worth leasing. in the ~$1000 a month range with $5k down.
When are you expecting the new A6s? I am local and interested…
4th quarter. No specific release date
Any word on pricing for 2019 Audi’s? Seems strange the order guide had no prices.
Ivan ive text you with no response also cross posting cuz you seem more active in this thread.
Looking to price a Q7 Prem Plus w Navi 36/15k
Black or Blue Exterior. Privacy cargo and mat preferred options
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@IvanAudi Have you ever found any evidence a loaner car was abused ? Do you guys inspect loaners thoroughly ( putting on the lift, looking for unseen damage) prior to selling them?
And then mark down further or try to fix it? I think the dealership plays the “we rather not know” game with the loaners. I can’t imagine someone abusing the car so much in a day or two that they have it that it gives out in the 3 years you lease it for.
I don’t know , hence asking some insights . I think it’s also dealer’s interest to fix or disclose any negatives rather than upset the customer afterwards. There is a guy in another posting who is dead set not leasing loaners claiming they are all abused and I wanted to hear from an insider what could go wrong even if someone gets an abused loaner.
Treat all loaners, demos as used.
While dealer will take care of the obvious, they are not obligated to fix other issues.
For any used car, I always arrange with the dealer after terms are agreed upon to have the vehicle inspected by my mechanic called a private party inspection.
I have done this 3 times with a loaner, demo and used. 2 of them proved to be perfect - no body panels replacements, no suspension bends/abuse, or major repairs. (BMW 335d & 328xi). 1 turned out to be a dealer hiding many issues - body panel replacement, re-painting, suspension issues, and major hidden codes that were erased.
Best $100 I spent to return the car and negate the contract.
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What was the one with issues ? A loaner or a used car?
Thanks for all the information!
Are dealers motivated to do out of state leases? Is there any change in incentives for instate vs out of state?
Range Rover LR3 had over $8K in repairs that dealer tried to hide…
Glad to have the dealer agree to a 24 hour inspection to cancel the contract…
You missed the important question, was it the loaner or a used car that had the damage?
It was a very low miles USED Rover.
Thought it was a bargain, but buyer beware is the key lesson learned.
Well, back to square one… Hope somebody with insider knowledge can answer: Do dealers have a set process to thoroughly inspect loaners prior to selling them? For example, do manufacturers “require” to make sure loaners are as good as new? Take CPO for example, many manufacturers guarantee the car is not salvaged, all maintenance were timely etc. Similar rules apply to loaners too?
If the car is not going through certification then it is just a safety check to make sure the fluids are topped off and brakes are within safe parameters.
A car cannot be certified if it has a bad car fax, show prior paint work, and tires/brakes/rotors must be 50% or newer. Every manufacturer are different so I can only speak for Audi.
At least from an Audi dealership stand point, these service loaners are loaned out to clients who bring their car in for service. I really don’t imagine our clients abusing the cars since most of them are business professionals who are just using it to drive to work and back.
After 5-7k miles we retired them and put them on the lot for sale. If something were to go wrong it is covered under warranty.
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Dealerships are not required to disclose any prior damages on a USED car so please buy with caution, especially when a deal seems too good to be true.
Do your due diligence to inspect the car ESPECIALLY if it’s not certified. Don’t rely on CARFAX alone. With that being said though, most dealerships do not resale cars with prior damage, they would appraise it based on what the car might fetch at auction and it would end up there to avoid the headache of and unhappy client and future repairs. It is not worth the dealerships time and reputation to sell a bad car.
These cars will end up at mom and pop shops in most cases so I would be even more careful when purchasing a used car there.
However on a new car, a dealership must disclose any damages over ~$1,000. Don’t quote me on this but its around that amount.
I’ll second this question. Being in WA and having my lease coming to its maturity date in several months from now I’m curious if it’s even worth to read this forum and get my blood boiled when my local deal gets to be 60% worse compared to glorious SoCal. I’m exaggerating here but the principal question stands. Are CA dealerships able and anyhow motivated to do the out of state deals?
They are as motivated as any dealership to do a sale, in state or out. Some dealerships aren’t set up to do out of state deals, or don’t want to bother, however, due to the extra paperwork with titling/temp registrations/local taxing/etc. With that said, many are as willing to take your $$$ as the dealership down the street from you is. I’ve puechased a couple cars out of state.
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Thanks for being open to feedback. I hope you can share some perspective for some of my burning questions. I’ve only been on the forums for about 3 weeks and after reading 6k+ posts, it seems that these “unicorn” deals are only posted by a handful of people.
There are some who have successfully negotiated over email (which boggles my mind) vs at the dealership but, fundamentally these managers heuristically respond positively or negatively after the concessions are done.
What is the primary driver/motivation for Sales Managers or GM’s to accept these low margin, break-even or potential loss deals? I’ve been shown the door or have been ignored trying to replicate these deals and there has to be a better way.
Cheers!