Help Evaluating Lease On 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

I’m looking for opinions

Went to Mitsubishi to test drive the 2018 Outlander PHEV.

I had seen a lease special on the Mitsubishi website that ends today for 2018 model @ $3500 down, +tax and fees and $289/mo.

They were seemingly unable to offer this deal, here are the parameters from the paper I brought home.

When I enter these numbers in the calculator, it comes out with a different monthly payment, $427, so I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong there.

I didn’t sign on it, the rebate theoretically expires tonight, but I wouldnt be surprise if they still honored it tomorrow.

Is this a terrible deal, good deal or what?

Price: 35375
Term: 36
Rate .39
MSRP: 36210
RESIDUAL .48
ACQ Fee: 17380

Cash: 3499
Rebate: 5800
Tot Cap Red: 6079.58
Tot INIT PMT 9299

Govt Fees: 146
Total Taxes: 1215

Doc Fee 699
Sec Deposit 350

Monthly payment - $339

So much going on here…

Manufacturer sets rebates and end-date, typically last day of month. No telling what it will be tomorrow. Federal tax credit will be so that 5800 will be there. Car will be a month older, and it’s possible Mitsu pulls lease incentives all together and moves to purchase.

Check Edmunds for buy rate residual and MF. I happened to look at these this month (interior wasn’t for me) and what I got was:

If you’re worried about diff between dealer and website, double check you used right zipcode. Skimming those Edmunds forums some zips had much higher incentives in different cities/states for same vehicle/term. It depends where you live.

I wouldn’t put any money down, $0 due at signing. And easier to compare deals and if it’s totaled tomorrow you’re upfronts are gone.

It’s late on last day of month but I would have gotten one more dealer in the competition. There are TONS of these leftover, tax credit and HOV eligible Outlander PHEVs on the ground as of last week when I wrote it off.

Mitsubishi and their dealer network border on “Buy Here Pay Here” predatory lending at this point. There’s a million other better cars that you can get for that kind of money and they know it too.

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Not many PHEVs that I can fit a pinball machine in. By the time you factor in fuel economy vs my 4.8l Expedition, it would have cost about maybe $150/mo more than the 21 year old truck I’m driving. Seems like the safety is better and reliability is better for that increased price. Then if gas goes up $1 I’m at parity.

Is this in California? Maybe they are factoring in the 3500 dollar CVRP rebate as cash down? Since you get it back it ends up being net zero down, or DAS if that’s all you have to put down at signing, which I’ve noticed is a common tactic among California dealers that’s not necessarily frowned upon since you get it all back via CVRP if you qualify.

No it’s GA.

Used the Mitsubishi website as the locator, it only found three 2018 PHEVs for lease in north Atlanta radius, at a dealer an hour away.

Through another source, found a cluster of them at a Chrysler dealer, who couldn’t lease them, because he bought them off the adjacent Mitsubishi lot to sell as used, although they only have a few hundred miles. They were going for 27.5k and 27.8k.

Here’s the Promotion text, if it helps clarify:

$289 Per MO for 36 MO

Lease: $289 per month / 36 months / $3,088 due at lease signing. Includes required refundable security deposit.
Excludes tax, license, title, registration, documentation fees, insurance and the like.

Lease example for 2018 Outlander Phev SEL S-AWC 1AT, MSRP $34,920 plus $1,095 ($1,220 Alaska / Hawaii) destination handling.
Due at signing is if customer applies $1,000.00 lease rebate. Available through Ally Financial, subject to approved credit and insurance.
Net capitalized cost is $27,423 and includes $595 acquisition fee and $4,800 capitalized cost reduction allowance offered by Ally Financial.
Option to purchase at lease end at price determined at lease signing.
Lessee is responsible for maintenance, repairs, excess wear, and $0.20 per mile over 12,000 miles/year.
Not all customers will qualify.
Price, terms and vehicle availability may vary.
Other lease terms/details apply.
This offer may not combine with factory cash rebates.
See your participating dealer for details.
Offer valid from 05/01/2019 through 05/31/2019.

Seems to me, there is only $455 difference between the offer sale price $35,375 vs. the example price of $34,920, yet the DAS was $400 higher, and the monthly payment was $50 higher.

Just curious, do you transport pinball machines often? I’ve never heard that rationale :rofl:

Anyway, it seems crazy that a 2018 Outlander would have such a small selling price discount. They should be blowing these things out.

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Once in a few weeks. I usually buy them broken, then take them to my repair man, then pick them up. that’s sometimes three transports per machine. I probably have about 22 now.

I guess Mitsubishi has to protect their retail price with the general public by not letting them go too cheap.

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The offer was extended: Offer valid from 06/01/2019 through 07/01/2019.

This is one of the worst deals on one of the worst brands in America.

JMO

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You can’t put a price on the ability to carry pinball machines. You could probably get a volt and a Tacoma for this price. Problem solved.

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I was gonna say, maybe a cheap pickup truck would be a better choice for this kind of thing?

My recommendation for every “I need a large vehicle” post is the same: cheap 3rd gen Honda Odyssey. I was wondering how many golf bags I could fit in mine yesterday. Maybe 80?

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Keep the Expedition for your “once in a few weeks” pinball machine pickup runs and lease a cheap runabout for everything else.

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Pacifica hybrid

Not sure if this helps out at all but this popped up in my system today with US Bank.


Here are residuals based on 15K. Add 1% for 12K OR 2% for 10K

Interesting how it says the calculate the percentage then add $5,836 (Not sure if that only refers to 2019)

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