Help a rookie lease a BMW i5M60 - this doesn’t seem right

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First time considering a lease, working with a “family friend”, but not sure I’m getting a fair deal. Thoughts on the proposal and how I should approach it?

New 2024 BMW i5 M60 (5,500 miles loaner)

Term: 36 Month
MSRP: $85,745.00
Discount: -$7,745.00
Selling Price: $78,000.00
Rebates: -$9,000.00
Your Discounted Price: $69,000.00
Residual Value: $44,802.00

Miles: 10,000 miles/year
Down Payment: $0.00

  • Estimated Taxes (8.25%): $3,976.87

  • Estimated Fees: $2,719.03

  • Acquisition Fees: $925.00

  • Due at Signing: $1,792.97

Monthly Payment: $1,068.94

*Estimated Fees Vehicle Tax: $15.00, Documentation Fee: $358.03, License Fee $151.00, Title Fee. $165.00, VITU Fee: $35.00,

PermaPlate: $1,995.00

Due at Signing consisis of Down Payment (Cap Cost Reduction), Celain Fees and Taxes, First Payment, and any security deposit recuired

A 9% discount is short of the mark, especially on a loaner. The $1995 permaplate has to go. Deal doesn’t look that friendly to me, you could do better on Marketplace

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They are baking in some hidden fees into this deal most likely or not giving you the subvented money factor that BMW offers.

Here’s what this deal actually should look like (based on your $9,000 in rebates and $7,745 dealer discount) - $780/month pre-tax.

This monthly assumes that you’d be paying all the doc. fees, govt. fees, upfront taxes and the acquisition fee at signing.

See from the calculator below:

You could potentially go for a more aggressive dealer discount, apparently the other person on here thinks that 9% is too low for a 5k loaner and I can agree.
Those 5k miles were most likely pretty rough.

If you get yourself the ratefindr on this forum, you’d be able to go in there and play with the numbers to get the deal to where you want it to be.

Then when you present all the numbers to the dealer, they’ll take you more seriously and know that they can’t play games with you.

Didn’t have to read any further. Knew it wasn’t good.

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Thanks for the suggestion on getting into rate finder, well worth being a member to get access and education! Looking at the calculator you sent it doesn’t reference the Demo Miles. Is this optional for the dealership to include in the residual or will it be on there regardless, thus lowering the residual and increasing the payment?

fwiw: i am leasing a 93.6k msrp i5 m60 (53 miles) for 897/month, 2.4k DAS. 36/10

your location and taxes would be extremely relevant if you’d like to share a payment for comparison

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The way I see it, DAS is going to be close to $3000 regardless the deal with Chicago/Cook county tax up front on the credits and lic/plat/doc fees what they are.

Not sure about this, sorry. I would guess that the demo miles will not be accounted for in the residual value, you should be safe with the RV you get off here.

When I saw “family friend”

vaseline GIF by KING OF THE ROAD

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Are you in Chicago or just in Cook County? Big difference because Chicago has an extra lease tax.

Just Cook - not actually Chicago. Did not know that either - thank you!

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How does your deal compare with some posted by brokers? Compare the deals pretax of course.

The 9% discount from MSRP for a loaner seems weak. Especially for an EV. They aren’t exactly lining up to buy these things.

I’ve learned a lot here. Moving towards iX. I feel like I’m close here but can’t find where the extra $60 or so monthly is based on the calculator. Any advice?

Your money factor is not set to what they’re using, which is .00066.

In IL, taxes are taxed when rolled in, similar to New York, so if you fix the money factor and apply the NY tax rules, you get an exact match:

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Thank you. I assumed they were giving me the standard Subvented MF offer. I assume then that’s where they’re making their extra and where I could try to negotiate if I wanted to go lower?

At this point, don’t try to piecemeal it and pull individual levers. Just give the dealer your target offer and get a yes or no. By looking at one lever, it is easy for the shell game to be played with you.

Come up with your target offer, and if the dealer says yes, all is good.

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Your deal is completely solid, 11% off with marked-up money factor and no-add’s without the use of a broker is a deal worth accepting if the car is what you want.

Could I beat this by 1% with my Chicago dealer? Yes. Is it really worth it if you love the car they have in stock? Probably not.

Take the deal.

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