Hellcat 2018 Widebody

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Hey! I am just checking with the super-d-duper awesome Hackr community if what I am offering the dealer is reasonable based on all y’alls experience:

Hellcat Widebody 2018
Base price: 64295
Widebody performance package 6000
Demonic red seats 250
Automatic 2995
Power sunroof 1995
Painted black satin hood 1995
Engine block heater 95
Summer tires 695
Black brake calipers 495
Gas guzzler 1700
Destination charge 1095
Total price on sticker 81,610
(They have the windows tinted already AND they have a 3M front end wrap that they do not even mention in the price, both of which I was going to do anyways)

I was going to offer the following:
5k off for a total of 76,610
Money factor 0.001
A reasonable document fee
A reasonable acquisition fee (I won’t mention fees unless they do first!)

12,000 miles/year
36 month term

zero drive off

Residual 70%

Oklahoma tax is 3.25%
Title fee 11
Registration fee 96

~$773/month

This puts me at a monthly payment of a little under 1% of the MSRP, which I think makes this a fair deal.

What do you think of this offer I will be presenting tomorrow? Am I being unrealistic because it’s a Widebody Hellcat? I do a dealer search and widebody Hellcats are few and far between. Should I be expecting to pay a premium on a first year widebody hellcat? Or is this a totally reasonable offer?

Thanks!

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The acquisition fee is non-negotiable. It’s set by each captive.

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/48062/dodge/challenger/2018-dodge-challenger-lease-deals-and-prices/p15 Based on this forum I’m seeing 62% as the residual for the HC WB and 0.0011 as the MF for that particular zip code for a 36 mo/10k lease, so the RV would be lower for a 36 mo/12k lease. The RV can’t be arbitrarily set…

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Might want to get an insurance quote first. Make sure you specify that it’s a Hellcat and not your typical rental Dodge.

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good luck padawan. but going into a dealer offering that will most likely result in great disappointment as they will not say, sure, docfry, we’ll give it to you for $773 month and 0 drive off. not even. after. 10 hours.

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.is it really that bad ?

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Is the MF regional? I was quoted two different MF’s for the regular cat and widebody.

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I’m 50. clean license 15 years. No accidents in over 30 years on MC and Auto. I was quoted a 75% premium increase on a scatpak so a few levels down.

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MF is often different for different trims.

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Ah! I thought RV was negotiable. Very helpful response. Thank you!

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I highly recommend this article: https://leasehackr.com/blog/2016/4/17/how-to-calculate-lease-payments-by-hand.

Also, I would definitely suggest checking out the Leasing 101 tab in the upper right hand corner. Tons of great information.

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http://www.grundy.com/mvp/

Cheapest hellcat quote some have even gotten $60 a month :man_shrugging:t2:

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Paying $800 /mo to drive a Dodge muscle car? You tell me :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Ok, now that I understand this a little better and I got some real tangible numbers from the dealer, what do y’all think of this for a 2018 Widebody Hellcat:

  • Sales price 83610 (more expensive than other hellcats due to window tinting, summer tires, custom hellcat logo, black satin hood, 3M front end protection, etc ----> and they won’t budge on the price! Another dealer I called for a different widebody said they won’t budge either!)

  • Money factor 0.00011 (yeah, pretty close to zero!)

  • 12,000 miles, 36 months

  • Residual 61%

  • Oklahoma sales tax 4.25% (I’m in one of those states that has to pay taxes on the ENTIRE amount of the vehicle)

  • Monthly rate ~1071 per month (taxes rolled in)

Now, I called my bank and they are offering a loan at 3.99%, no money down, 84 months, $1142 per month.

So, for those experienced in leasing since I have never done so, why would I lease if I can buy for almost the exact same price? Is there a true advantage? Especially, since I have to pay tax on the FULL value of the car anyways…? I still have much to learn. :slight_smile:

Thanks so much for the help! I hope to pay it forward one day!

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That’s ridiculous. Car will probably break down before it’s paid off.

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