Plugshare primarily, but theres no real point in searching out chargers in the 4xe. If theres one where I’m already going, I will use it, but I wont go out of my way to find one.
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@305Hackr regarding the tesla chargers, you could have used a tesla destination charger if there was one at your hotel with the adapter, just not the superchargers currently.
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A bunch of those are CCS at car dealerships or Harley dealerships or odd ones like a free 50 kW at the Seaworld corporate office. CCS charging sucks in Orlando and central Florida.
Tesla Superchargers are plentiful in Orlando. None further than 10 miles in any direction anywhere. Nobody should have range anxiety with a Tesla in most of Florida. Coverage is excellent here.
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I was probably too hard on @305Hackr, I would’ve been pissed if I was in his shoes.
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In my experience, my LEAF gets about 10% above the ‘stated range’ in around town and/or stop & go traffic driving. Freely moving, higher speed highway driving is a completely different story, about 30% drop from the around town range or about 20% below the stated range, if not worse.
Oddly enough, while turning off AC does help, in my experience it hasn’t made a ton of difference (or at least not as much as I had expected) and remarkably the LEAF’s AC is ridiculously strong.
I have noticed this a lot too. The supercharger network is fairly robust, even if often oversubscribed. Most of the condo/apt Tesla owners I know don’t drive a ton of miles and a full charge up can last them a week or more. Plus some can charge ‘at work’ if they don’t WFH. If any EV makes ownership without at home charging doable, it’s Tesla.
Friends and I actually booked two Tesla model S’ for a Disney trip.
I had to postpone the trip but my friends did end up going.
We chose the car because it cost the same price as an Altima at the time of booking. Plus the super charging station was only a few miles from hotel.
Rental company ended up not having the Tesla in stock and ended gave them a Polestar instead. Initially offered him a Leaf 
He drove the entire trip (6 days) without charging once. Everything was in close proximity. He does own an EV so he’s familiar with the range issues.
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Im just laughing my ass off at this whole thread. Hate EV / Love Ev, Republican / No politics please, EV in Rentals, Tesla Better?, Charger networks etc etc. Oh and the best, greesy Chicken fingers 
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I myself am a hard no for EVs but only for road trips. My family and I do almost 6k miles every year specifically just for road trips and I cant imagine dealing with the whole 80% charge for certain times on any manufacturers EV forget 100% charges. From someone who has done a straight 13 hr drive for Virginia to S. Florida in a day and also a straight 14 hr Houston to Central Florida back in the days, EVs are just not practical (for myself). Now if we are talking city driving, as a S.FL resident, I dont see anything wrong with any EV that gives you 250m actual range (not advertised) with all the accessories in the car functioning. You definitely need a proper level 2 charger setup at your residence.
P.S. as Floridians, you can’t be 100% EV, definitely need a second gas car thanks to hurricanes.
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No one has DC charging set ups at home.
Do you mean a level 2 evse?
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Edited lol. U can tell I don’t own an EV
Oddly enough, I’ve timed between North DFW and Houston with our MX vs the X5 45e and it usually falls within 40 minutes of each other.
Where it really starts to stack up though is longer legs like DFW-DEN or points further but you do learn to adapt and appreciate the charging breaks.
Sorry your rental ended up being a PITA. But I’m interested in how you were able to get a free juice up to 80%. I’ve never heard of Wawa but I like free charging 
I think EVs do require some education given that the infrastructure around them is still developing. Can definitely sympathize with your experience. They’re perfect for commuting, especially since the empg delivers massive savings over gasoline. But range anxiety is totally a thing. I do hope that 400+ miles soon becomes the standard for all EVs and that over the next 5-10 years the infrastructure gets built out so that recharging is as easy as filling up at a gas station.
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Avis guy told me the Tesla fast chargers can be used with an adapter in the trunk. Clearly not true
Avis guy was uninformed unfortunately. I don’t think rental companies should be putting these cars out there without proper training for staff.
Mods please split the thread, so we can discuss gas stations (and likely Medicare fraud).
@305Hackr screen shots of your Avis survey …?
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Who hasn’t heard of Wawa? 
And then there’s Sheetz!
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I can see why you wouldn’t know any better.
I had never used a public charger until a few months ago when I had to bring the Leaf to a Walmart. I walked up to the charger, tried to plug it in and realized it didn’t fit. Tried another, didn’t fit. Luckily there was one and only one charger that was compatible.
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Yup, longer trips wont work. The Virginia to Ft Lauderdale trip was last summer on our X7 and I literaly did 3 stops of which two were for Gas /restroom breaks 10 mins max and one more almost 30 min in the afternoon. On an EV, the charging stops after every 250 - 300 mile would just make me tired and stay a night probably in SC or Georgia.
So EVs are really just a conspiracy by Big Hotel and Big Mattress?
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You forgot to add the Oil companies 
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You get kids to adhere to that kind of regimen while road tripping? 