Hacking Porsche Panamera

I personally leased a 2018 Panamera 4 Demo with 4300 miles on it. Black on Black. MSRP was like 105k and was sold to me for 85k I believe but would have to double check all these numbers. My lease payment was $985/month with taxes, tags and fees upfront or $1129/month as a sign and drive. This also included them waiving 12 months of my Porsche Cayenne lease payments of $1050/month. I took the sign and drive option. This was the best I could do just to give you a reference. The S should be more obviously.

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We got 10% off in 12/2017 for a 2018 model.
I would figure 10% is a minimum discount I would need if I were to get say another 2018.

Shop around. Some of these panameras have been on the dealers lots for well over a year now.

I leased a panamera last october here in so cal. I was looking into the 4s as well then i saw the pana 4 E-hybrid, Pretty much the same power on the car, just as fast but with better incentives. it was a 116K car and they sold it to me for 96K including some 6.5K state hybrid incentives. with $3500 drive off i am paying $1525/month (Including tax) payment before tax was $1410 but thats for 39/15K and it also includes annual maintenance + wheel and tire warranty. which accounts for 50/month in the payment.

A 4s with some options and terms was $250 more/ month.

This is in Mass, but I would chase something like this:

While I have no doubt that Porsche deserves its high marks for reliability, I assume that the cars must still be maintained rigorously (and at a high cost) to maintain that reliability… I assume they’re not like (older) Toyotas and (much older) Hondas where you can literally not maintain them and except them to run just fine for 200,000 mi.

To be frank, I don’t understand your argument. My point is that they’re much more reliable than any Land Rover.

Theyre high performance fine tuned machines.

Of course you need to maintain anything that’s high performance.

People who forget to change their oil and do not want to do routine maintenance do not deserve to drive them.

Porsche is in a class of its own. IMO It’s the only in between standard performance luxury brands such as BMW, Audi, Mercedes, and Ferrari, Lambo, Mclaren etc…

My point is that another poster had warned of owning a Porsche out of warranty b/c it could potentially be very expensive.

Your linked article does nothing to refute that point since even regular maintenance is presumably very expensive (and only gets more expensive as a car ages, regardless of reliable it is), and your value judgment about people not “deserving” to own a certain brand car is of absolutely no interest to me whatsoever.

I’ve read somewhere their profit margins are at minimum 3x that of Toyota or Honda per car.

Totally believe it.

They charge about $1800 for power seats :slight_smile:

I have been looking and the key is this as I know from a salesperson. The standard Panamera not much of a discount but the Sport Turismo though it has a price increase over the standard model is deeply discounted on 18s. I was looking for a Turbo and to start was offered 50K off a 175K new untitled not demo Turbo Sport Turismo. Scaling that down you could probably get a good deal on the Sport Turismo version of the 4S.

50k off is crazy lol

I have them from 117,500 sticker and have it at 102,000 now

I’m wondering how much more I could bring it down. He says that’s max and I wanted 97,000 which would be 20 percent off

I said scale it down 50K off a 175K MSRP vehicle I also have a copy of what dealer invoice price was on the car but I don’t know if Porsche has the 2-3% hold back in invoice pricing.

No I understood

I was just saying that 50k off any car is great

That’s 29 percent off sticker

I’m at about 15 right now

Here’s 26.5% off on a purchase…Dealer Demo Panamera Turbo

For a Turbo non sport Turismo that’s not bad.

Good luck with your negotiations. Keep it updated in the forum once you strike a deal.

If one has to think about reliability for $50K+ cars, WTF? get a civic :slight_smile:

I would not touch any Porsche 5 years and older, the maintenance will kill you, brake jobs $3000, something something flush $700. Unless you are a handy mechanic, do not touch any Porsche older than 5 years old.
It’s just like having a hole in your pocket, draining your hard earned moolah.

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MSRP of 127,000

after discount and incentives

drive offs and 1,318 before tax …pretty close to the one percent

is the best deal I have now

I have an older Porsche and respectfully disagree with you! It depends which model you have but the Porsches built after 2009 are pretty solid. Of course if you bring your car to a dealership, that is absolutely true but when you have a reliable independent mechanic, they do the job for 30% of what you would pay to the dealership and this is not more than what you pay to get your Lexus, Audi, BMW or even Honda serviced. E.g. Break Flush cost me 120 Bucks.