Well, and some extra NVH added.
I see youâre trying to finance and not lease.
At this point, just get the best interest rate you can find and if the only mark up youâre getting is 500 dollars then youâre still pretty close to MSRP on a Macan.
The market I believe will be different in 3 years and the used car market values will probably be slightly above what they were before the crisis hit. I would not expect 55k to 60k value on a Macan S in over three years.
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what do you expect the value to be on the macan in 3 years? i anticipate the car having around 15k miles in 3 years.
Personally? I think somewhere high 40kâs is realistic looking at what 3-year old Macan prices at retail in 2020 before the crisis really hit home. Higher mileage Macans were in the low 40kâs with some in the high 30s.
I think the big issue is that Macan is a high volume seller (relatively) for Porsche. Itâs the most popular model. I think the depreciation curve on the Macans tends to level off around 3 to 4 years of age and unless you put a ton of mileage they shouldnât go down much further. (6-year old Macans with over 80k miles were going for mid 20kâs, for example)
Of course⌠I can be 100% wrong and Macans can still be worth 60k after 3 years. Iâm just a stranger on the internet with no stake in your money.
youâre right. I wonder if it makes a difference between base / s /gts. I would assume the rarer versions might have a little more residual. but i could be wrong. I know nothing about macans. Just that they seem like pretty fun cars.
GTS/Turbo cars retain value pretty well compared to S and Base. I think Base might actually have better overall residual over S due to having lower MSRPs and the point of entry for them being lower than an S.
The majority of the used car buying public is going to lump the S in with the X3 M40i and SQ5 crowd and thatâs why I think the S values are going to be lower. Many think the Macan S is just a Porsche-badged SQ5 just to make an SQ5 more expensive, but thereâs obviously more to it. Truth doesnât matter here, only market perception.
For what itâs worth, Porsche sees the primary market for the Macan being executives and CEOâs making 400k+ a year. There is no real value to be had here and I donât think Porsche really cares about its market performance.
Macans are phenomenal crossovers, but I do not think a Porsche Macan/Cayenne is the âvalueâ buy if trying to get into a performance luxury car. I donât think any performance luxury cars are value buys. I understand your logic in trying to mitigate as much money loss as possible given your preferences, but I think that if your concern is âresidual valuesâ on a car like this then it simply isnât the car for you in the first place.
Purely an emotional buy for rich people.
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I have noticed a general trend that the GTS holds its value the best as a percentage, granted it has the right options, followed by the S and then base. The Turbo seems to do the worst.
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Great summary and thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think youâre pretty spot on with the analysis and I pretty much agree with all of your points. The demo from my experience is pretty accurate as well.
That said A lot of leashackers, I think, can afford these vehicles, but are trying to optimize their spend and get the best deal possible. At least thatâs my position.
My justification is the best value for the tier. I suppose in this case itâs the performance/luxury 60-80 range and Tortola cost of ownership. The vehicles in this tier on my short list are: mdx type s, macan s, x3m, glc 63. I crossed out the latter two as they are marked way up and thereâs no chance at msrp. And the extended wait is a factor as the longer I wait the more I lose from my current car, which I think will drop precipitously( fell 5k from 1/1 to now)
However you are correct. My heart says go with macan, but perhaps I should just wait for my trd pro to get allocated. Haha.
If you can afford it, then follow your heart. If the money factor bothers you this much then wait for the TRD. I think it comes down to this.
Iâve been down this path many times before, myself. Just donât live with regret.
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OP: my mom wants a Cayenne
Forum: theyâre retiring. Get a Kia. Itâs the best bang for your buck
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Maybe not the best bang for buck anymore⌠theyâre all marked up and segment beaters.
Maybe a Frontier or 4XE instead?
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Thatâs not what they said at all. They want something nice. Literally any comparable car class for class will probably be a better value than equivalent Porsche. No one gets a Porsche for value.
If anything itâs the opposite where I think OP is the one who wants a Porsche
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The only car not to get is the 21 Macan S but there werenât many of them anyways. The Macan turned out to be too small for us so we ordered a X545e but who knows how long that will take.
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Fees look standard. Not sure what your tax rate is I would venture to guess it will cost you less than 1000 a month to own this for first 3 years insurance not withstanding. Just do it!
I got the same fee when I built my configuration on the Porsche USA website. Should be legit as long as itâs not already included in the retail price above.
That is the destination fee, which is the average cost of transporting a new Porsche to a dealer in the U.S. Every car has it added to the total base price with options to get the MSRP.
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I disagree that the frontier is the best bang for your buck. Monthly cash flow on a rather short term basis alone, sure, absolutely. Otherwise, we can only theorize what the value of those trucks will be, let alone what this market will be in 18-24 months from now.
Iâm still confused as to why we are even discussing Porsche if saving money and value are included in this thread. Iâm a diehard Porsche fan, for the record. Again, theyâre not value vehicles and they never will be. Porsche doesnât need to offer coupon clippings.
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Which means the title should be updated: âWhen IS a good time to finance a Porsche?â
It appears his parents, or at least his mother, is in the market for a luxury suv, so suggesting a Honda or Toyota or Hyundai is not relevant.
Maybe OP is trying to justify what they want but in my opinion, itâs not necessary. Theyâre retiring and if theyâre doing ok financiallyâŚ. if they want the car, they want the car