Who’s building their cars? Do they even have a factory?
Magna Steyr for the Ocean, then Foxconn at their acquired Lordstown Motors factory (former Pontiac, Chevy, GM plant).
They built the Fisker Karma in a previous life - a hybrid high EV range PHEV that looks weird and was absolute trash
That was a different company, even if it is loosely related to the original owner starting it up again. It’s really a wild story.
I’d agree and disagree on some of that, the original company and assets were purchased by a Chinese acquisition company, but Henrik kept all IP assets and founded Fisker Inc.
They used the GM Volt platform, so it’s not like they did any super groundbreaking engineering the first time around. But I’m excited to see what happens next.
My take:
The Fisker Karma failed because Fisker tried to do too much themselves, they were too small, and the technology was too new. They used A123 as a battery supplier which ended up going bankrupt. They had poor execution on other aspects of the car, like infotainment, which was terrible. Henrik has learned from this experience.
The Fisker Ocean and Pear are based on existing platforms. The infotainment is engineered by Foxconn, Fisker is just designing the UI. They’re using CATL Kirin batteries, which CATL claims are 13% more energy dense than Tesla 4680 cells. CATL also provides one of the best battery warranties around at 10 years, 100,000 miles, and 75% degradation.
Fisker is focusing on design, product management, user experience, marketing, sales, and not engineering or manufacturing. I think its a great strategy actually.
Fisker will raise ocean prices after 40,000 units, roughly at the end of 2023. This is also a flip opportunity.
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Are the fisker’s refundable ?
So $250 reservation, but they keep $25 if you cancel. They wanted to fight the fake reservation sentiment with the start ups. The value for money on the Fisker looks fantastic though, and the warranty is the best in class too. I may just keep it and sell my second reservation.
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I keep contemplating reserving a fisker. You may have talked me into it. I dont mind lighting $25 on fire.
That must not include how much we all lit on fire on the Fisker Karmas we never bought ($139M)
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Where would even take Fisker for service?
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Only $100 to reserve a second one…tempting
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Same here but I can’t find specs on their website. Whats the HP? 0-60 times? Charging times? What does rear leg room look like?
This is a great overview. Fisker Ocean REVIEW is this all-new EV SUV better than Tesla, VW, Ford and Hyundai? - YouTube
Sport is FWD, 0-60 is 6.9 seconds
Ultra and Extreme are AWD and start at 49,999 before tax credit and have 540HP, torque vectoring and 0-60 in 3.9 or 3.6 seconds. Car also has digital imaging radar standard which I believe to be the best sensor available for ADAS.
Car will be serviced by Cox automotive in the USA. They will take the car and service it.
Bumper to bumper warranty is 6 years, 60,000 miles. Battery is 10 years, 100,000 miles, 75% degradation. Most are 70%. It uses the newest CATL Kirin batteries which are apparently better than 4680s. Its essentially a Magna car with a CATL battery. I’ve become an investor recently at 1-1.5x 2023 revenue. The platform is proven already with the Arcfox A-T. Fisker has taken that and modified it substantially.
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Comparing the lucid to the fisker - it appears the lucid price is fixed but the fisker isn’t?
Both Lucid and Fisker will be raising prices.
Lucid will do so to new reservation holders after the end of the month. Existing reservation holders will need to confirm their order within 30 days of being invited to order. Price of the pure goes up by $10,000.
Fisker has indicated that they won’t raise prices until they’ve made 40,000 Oceans, or in 2024. they have 45,000 reservations now, so you’d need to reserve soon to lock in pricing, assuming some people don’t follow through.
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I’d say the even better financial bet would be to reserve the Fisker Pear. I’ve reserved 2.
If you do make a reservation, please use my referral code: 8YLKR7
I might be able to get a t shirt 
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That sounds ballsy. Reserve one but you don’t know what the msrp would be
For the Pear, it starts at $29999, $22,500 after tax credit. It will be on the Foxtron Model C Platform and built in Ohio at the Lordstown factory Foxconn just acquired.
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lordstown? well that significantly dampened my excitement. read up on what a scam lordstown was.