This is like when the internet started and people said it’ll never replace other means of commerce communication etc. they were right short term but the long term picture is the same. Ai is a game changer. It’s just bloated as is for now…companies will come and go just like in 1999. The ones that survive will exceed current market caps once they get back to sustainable levels and the chips fall
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Why does this thread exist? I would have thought car people would be able to understand staying in their own lane.
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This comment is going to age so poorly. I have customers that have reduced their customer success and bdr teams by more than 50% using the tools that we have rolled out in our software in the past year. Well-Trained customer success bots get better csat scores than humans because they never get snarky or frustrated with the customer no matter how stupid the questions are and they are just as good at solving their problems 75% of the time.
It’s not like we are using them for rocket science, but they are really really good at entry-level customer facing jobs.
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That’s not true. AI is already eliminating a ton of entry level / clerical work. Hell, a ton of the broker ads on this forum are AI-written. I’m not saying that Skynet is going to become self-aware tomorrow, but the impact on employment is about to become severe.
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I curse at ai bots all the time if that counts in the scoring. I almost always prefer a human but I still understand your point. It’s the future regardless of what anyone says and it’s savings companies millions
The most frustrating part is ai asks you 20 questions then the agent does the same. That’s if or if you don’t even ask for a human
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Or buy a floor freezer for your garage and an entire 1/2 or 1/4 side of beef for $1.5k or $800. Have a good butcher cut it up in all different ways and vacuum seal each cut in bags.
That will last a long time and still be good for 8-12 months in the freezer if done right. You cannot beat that price in any manner.
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I should have specified, chat bots. They are actually super good at handling most of the technical questions that we get from customers about how to use our software.
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Compare the AI videos generated 2 years ago with what Sora is doing now.
I’m not saying that AI is at that point for analytical workloads, but that it will get there soon. WHEN it gets there, the change will happen quickly.
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Yeah for sure but most of what people are asking could be found on their own anyway when it comes to technical issues.
I despise actually needing to call a company for an issue and it taking 10 mins longer bc I have to go through all the ai bots to get to someone that can help. It’s usually bc their company screwed up and owe me money. So I get why they make it frustrating. I’d imagine 50% of people just say eff it and the company keeps the cash
Porsche owes me $700 now and I dealt with their bots and agents twice now and they still haven’t credited me 3 months later. It’s all too convenient for them but not us
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Agreed on both fronts.
Take any industry and you will see AI knocking out 10-50% of non-specialized white collar, data processing and CS jobs in the next 3-10 years.
Some industries will be hit harder than others and will lose entire segments of the workforce. For example, think big legal with legal secretaries, legal assistants, clerks and many non-courtroom attorney jobs.
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Exactly.
LLMs will only get better in these tasks.
Agentic AI will likely be a big thing.
If anyone’s job can be safe in the future I’d imagine linemen would be one of them.
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The issue isn’t losing redundant jobs. It’s the ripple effects of those people not getting adequate replacement jobs and not contributing to the economy. I don’t see a solution, we need useless jobs more than useless eaters. Yes economies pivot and transform but I’m not sure unskilled or poorly skilled workers will have any place in it. Which reverts back to ubi or worse, population collapse
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The Tesla coil could come back!
Shocking news!
No, AGI is a game changer. That is what all billionaires are rushing to try to create - god in the computer. LLM’s are a disaster because they’re all just learning off either other and LLM generated data. None of them have been successful over any stretch of time and that is why all these AI companies are hemorrhaging cash. Highly recommend reading Ed Zitron’s newsletter. He’s very good at talking about what a fiasco all this is.
Because there aren’t any good deals to talk about and we’re all bored.
This is all just trying to get rid of bullshit jobs. You guys should read David Graber’s book:
https://davidgraeber.org/books/bullshit-jobs/
Even still, this isn’t what companies are doing. They’re wholesale slashing workforce participation in an effort to save money. You can’t possibly tell me that all 30k jobs at Amazon and 40k at UPS are all just BS clerical work, can you?
Not to mention that survey after survey show that people overwhelmingly HATE the AI chat bots, and AI in general.
We’ve already got lawyers having AI type up their opening and closing remarks, with predictably disastrous results.
Why on Earth would you think that LLM’s would get better in any way? They’ve shown absolutely no ability to improve at any tasks in any meaningful way.
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imho, their sales will come back once they start to offer them @ 1-200’s again.
Universal Income here we come with Tesla Optimus Robots mowing your lawn,making dinner, etc.
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They’ve improved themselves in the past years.
You keep using the current state of the technology as the basis for your argument while ignoring the evolution path.
eg: I’ve been getting great results with LLM creating summaries of meetings, including key topics, action items and etc. Don’t you see this as a productivity gain?
I have a freezer and a butcher, but rarely eat meat now. So took easy path today.
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AI taking jobs rn is corporate bullshit. Companies are both forcing attrition on low performers and making others work 2x as hard. This is simply to grow EPS, plain and simple. AI will take jobs in the not too distant future, but today it’s all about EPS growth by any means necessary, hence less employees in the guise of AI. The overhiring from the pandemic isn’t helping either.
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Broad based, widespread, not targeted tariffs are idiotic. IRS net revenue in 2024 was $4.5T. We’re currently averaging $30B a month in tariffs. That’s roughly 8% annualized of IRS income. NEWSFLASH: We’re eating those tariffs, and with the front loaded inventory dried up, it’s going to get worse. Even if you want to argue we’re eating half (which is a fair argument, although I’d suspect when the dust settles it’ll be closer to 75%), that’s a 4% tax on you (that’s a total tax, 4% on everything you purchase, I suspect it’s closer to 6% though). It’s so idiotic, it’s insane. Anyone who truly supports this (outside of those worth 9 figures or more), really needs serious and severe counseling.
To bring this full circle and on topic, we’ve ceded batteries and EVs to China. So in 10-15 years, we’ll all be driving $15k BYDs. Like everything else China related, they didn’t invent anything, took the idea, patiently waited, and won playing the long game, pretty awful on our part.
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