EV / Phev recommendation

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Hello Fellow Hackrs,

I have been MIA from the forum for a few months and am still catching up but would like your input / recommendations on where to focus my search.

Although enjoying our 2023, 330i - we do miss being in an EV and need a roomier vehicle that we can share - lots of low MPG city driving combined with us moving to an area with lots of free public charging (including EA) and a garaged house had me thinking about going back to an elecritifed ride.

I am looking for more trunk space and leg room VS the 3 series (doesn’t have to be an SUV), range not an issue but ability to get out/transfer lease in 12 to 18 months is important. 24 months preferred and want to be in the 500/600 sign and drive range max on a lease. We qualify for the 7500 but would rather not spend the money on a purchase.
I also know EV inventory is building up and I wanted to see if this also could help.

Thats probably a lot of ask for one vehicle but if there’s anything out there that fits some of the criteria I’d love to hear from you.

Thanks!

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In a very rough ascending order of pricing

Niro EV
Ioniq 5 or 6
JGC 4xe
Mazda CX90

As always, check the Marketplace for these and any other offers that escape the top of my head.

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Niro isn’t that much roomier. The Subaru Solterra/Toyota Bz4x is also throw in that list as roomy and able to get big discounts on and a payment under 500 and free to sell to 3rd parties if you want out.

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I think the IONIQ 5 SEL fits your criteria.

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I’d say this need makes Hyundai less appealing (even though it’s a better vehicle) with the challenge selling to 3rd parties.

Mazda Subaru and Toyota would allow you to get out easier. Values in 12 months? Who knows. Maybe Mazda has a shot at being decent. Jeep is easy to get out but GC4xe have values that tanked after a year.

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thanks thats a helpful start for me to do some more digging.
I figured the Kia/Hyundai may be a tough sell in terms of getting out.
IX BMW below 600? one can hope :slight_smile:

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Hyundai offers 24/12, but if you need to get out earlier, might be bothersome.

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Rav4 prime probably best chance of holding value If you need to be out in a year but payments aren’t great (600ish) and it’s the very definition of a transportation appliance.

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are we talking lease? I thought these were only a purchase candidate.

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TFS is applying 6500 against the cap cost on leases and many dealers will discount. So you can be just over 40 at the jump after fees and discount on a 46k sticker. But the payments aren’t great compared to other options.

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Even if you could get the iX for below 600(which is probably not gonna happen,) you should look into the insurance costs.

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Yea…looks like 680 all in 36m/10k 8.4tax with 27500 residual on a 50k Msrp xse

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I thought Toyota FS started restricting 3rd party buyouts? Anyway even when you’re free to transact, negative equity isn’t free.

Much better to throw the keys back after a 24m lease than take market value risk on some of the least desirable EV like the BZ.

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This and the Prius Prime (size permitting) are 100% better candidates than the BZ for any scenario where you’re not taking a lease to term and therefore take on market value risk.

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Might want to look at the Nissan Ariya. I don’t know if nmac allows lease transfers, or if they do anything less than 24 months.

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How about Volvo XC40/C40? Fits all your criteria, but the only part I don’t know about is the lease exit.

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It’s a good option, but they are 2 year waitlist for both rav4 prime and prius prime near me.

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Lol, 2 year wait list. @Jrouleau426 will get you a Rav4 Prime for thousands off sticker right now and you can ship it to yourself in a matter of days.

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I am just going to leave this here

https://electrek.co/2023/08/29/toyota-takes-another-hit-suspending-all-assembly-operations-in-japan/

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