EV Discussion Thread

I read this and I understand where your original anxiety comment comes from!

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I’m glad you love your Audi enough to justify the sacrifices you’re making to drive it :heavy_heart_exclamation:

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I have all kinds of issues. :wink:

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That is true. I got a Tesla only because I didn’t have home charging and wanted access to superchargers.

I was initially very concerned about getting an EV with a lower range. I only charge at work and my charge has never gone below 50%. Only after 9 months use am I comfortable in saying that the 200 miles range is more than enough for me.

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If you want EV with no hassle for long trips in US, Tesla is still your best bet because of their supercharging network.

If you’re a multiple-car household, just keep 1 ice car for long trip and change all your commuters to EV. As long as you have access to level 2 charging at home, you’ll be fine.

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In California, I believe the high cost of electricity is impacting EV sales. When I looked into buying a plug in hybrid recently, I determined that it was cheaper to run the car on gas (at $5 per gallon) than to charge at home.

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The data suggests another strong year for BEV sales worldwide. It seems alot of the US media only focuses on sales in the US. From; What was the most popular EV worldwide in 2023?

I’m using TOU for EVs with Edison and off-peak charging costs $.23/kw. Peak hours are $.59/kw 4-9pm - obviously no charging then. My car’s averaging about 356 wh/mi so it’s about 8.1 cents per mile. Still cheaper than gas, unless i get a Prius it seems.

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That’s what we do. Bolt for around town/metro travel, Volvo PHEV for the occasional long haul. Our town (Chicago suburb) aggregates electric service, flat rate around 12 cents, making the Bolt very cheap to operate.

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Exactly, like I posted on this thread earlier, by 2028 SCE will cost 79% more in Ca. Green state my ass.

Well except you don’t have to “top it off” to drive to work in most cases.

People hate change, that is really the bigger problem on top of the bad press that I am sure is being fueled by dealers and gas suppliers. I had a guy retire on me because of a change with our operations. Couldn’t deal with the idea of something new, more efficient and learning how to do it.

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Yes. Green from your pocket to theirs. :money_with_wings:

Ford slashing prices on 2023 Mach Es: Ford cuts prices of 2023 Mustang Mach-E, adds Lightning bonuses

Finally!

Anyone run the numbers yet on a MachE lease with the new numbers? Played with the calc a bit but would be interested in how much dealers want to blow these out.

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Ford has drastically cut prices on the Mach E and Lightning. I know I alone have around 400 in about a 75 mile range from me. I was trying to lease one months back and the dealers were wanting 1k a month for a GT.

  • Select rear-wheel drive (RWD) drops $3,100 to $39,895
  • Select all-wheel drive (AWD) drops $3,100 to $42,895
  • Premium RWD, standard range drops $4,100 to $42,895
  • Premium AWD, standard range drops $4,100 to $45,895
  • Premium RWD, extended range drops $8,100 to $45,895
  • Premium AWD, extended range drops $8,100 to $48,895
  • California Route 1 AWD, drops $8,100 to $48,895-
  • GT drops $7,600 to $52,395
  • GT Performance drops $7,600 to $57,395

Hope nobody has purchased a Lightning or Mach E recently.

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This is not sustainable for legacy auto. Ford lost $4.6 billion in 2023 on EVs($63k loss per EV unit sold). Early estimate they will lose $5.5 billion in 2024. Expect more ICE msrp increases to subsidize these losses.

So they drop the prices, plus giving $7500 cash back on lease ? Since EV credit is not available on Mach E. Like to see lease numbers on premium RWD or AWD…
They trying to compete with Tesla MY at $35k range. Guess should one go for MY or Mach E for lease…

They are just trying to help their dealers move very stale inventory. Many dealers still have new 2022 models.

January Mach E sales were down 51% year over year.

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Well… sort of self-inflicted… all the other EV brands were passing the $7500 lease incentive down to the consumers via rebates/subvent and Ford stayed stubborn with bad leases (as noted by numerous inquiries on LH).

No one brokers Ford in volume here so it would follow their sales lag and thus inventory mounts.

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Dealer I asked said they’re reinforcing these tomorrow so they’ll be able to run numbers later this week.