For urban solutions or large gathering centers I think we should be building new or retrofit parking garages with 240v outlets at every space, where you bring your own cord and charging cost is built into the price of parking.
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For urban areas we should be building mass transit, not figuring out how to charge cars. Some urban centers are so overpopulated that you can’t drive there while keeping any kind of sanity, but you have to because you don’t want to share a train car with a bum who’s shitting on the floor while the train is in motion.
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Ha, good point.
Yeah, half of those 10K chargers are Tesla SC.
This just isn’t a mass transit kind of country in the grand scheme save for some ridiculously dense areas.
I won’t go down the social decay rabbit hole here but you’d have to fix a lot to even make it truly economically viable where vast distances aren’t the issue.
As for adoption though If you build it, they will come still rings true.
I’m not betting on mass transit for multiple reasons. Incredibly long permit/ build cycles in the US, the social realities of those that can afford it not wanting to use it, etc. Besides which: in the time it would take most mass transit projects to get to fruition (10ish years) I’d put my money on robotaxi EVs and remote work to combine to change urban dynamics.
Robotaxis are a way for those that can’t charge overnight to take advantage of a fleet of EVs that can. Those fleets can play virtual power plant games when plugged in, charging with extremely cheap power and discharging to the grid when needed for peaking. I know they’ve been “right around the corner” for years, but robotaxis are now testing in 15 US cities and operational in three- they’ll be here at scale within the decade. Unfortunately they won’t fix traffic or reduce miles driven, in fact they’ll likely make both worse. I hope remote work relieves some of that pressure.
Both of these things are just excuses not do anything ever. It’s not about covering large distances, it’s about not concentrating all cars in one place at the same time.
Urban gets working mass transit and giant commuter lots with chargers, and whatever else is needed to keep the cars while people are at work, visiting museums, or whatever else people go to urban areas for. Start there, and then maybe build out the rest later. This anti-mass transit BS is older than dirt at this point, and if the infrastructure would have been started even 10 years ago, we would have been half way there if not done.
Yes, I understand what I’m saying involves a lot of work, but EVs are not going to save us from the fundamental issue, too many people in too small of areas.
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How about incentivizing moving out of cities?
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I got temp-banned from a Tesla forum for saying I thought ICE was the way to go for a family hauler capable for long trips and refueling during holiday peak. And ICE (in my experience) doesn’t shutdown randomly while at speed due to firmware glitches.
But BEV is really good around town and commutes where round trip can be charged from home or work.
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Remote work where possible should be standard, which will drive mass exhodus from the overpopulated areas, but we already see that most corporations are taking a stance against remote work, so that just like investment in mass transit ain’t happening.
if only things like plug in hybrids existed? hmmm… maybe Toyota’s approach and way of thinking make way more sense? NAH, can’t be.
I think there’s a perception that remote work makes people lazy.
But the reality is that lazy people are going to be lazy whether they have to trudge into the office or not. Self starters and hard workers will do as such no matter where you put them and realistically a commute robs them of productive time.
Considering how much time you all have to post on LH during a workday, I’m going to assume most of you all work from home.
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Nah then you end up with a middling mess that has two drivetrains.
Like the packaging on a Tesla offers a ton of extra storage space. A MB GLE hybrid feels more cramped than a Model Y.
Id rather just have a pure BEV for short runs and a fully spacious ICE for long travel. Now you see why I got banned hah.
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Wherever I may roam
Here is the deal. We went 100% remote to a point that the company ditched the offices and everyone works from wherever the F they feel like. Want to work from a park, go nuts, want to work in your underwear, enjoy, just put on pants if there is a video call please. It took a bit of time to modify KPIs for everyone, but now, we are 100% in the “do you job and noone gives a shit how you got id done” state. The company lost a ton of dead weight in pepole who were spending their days annoying everyone else, and the profits are now 6x what they were and not because of price jacking and inflation.
It’s the mangement that can never adjust to not micromanaging, having one on ones, and other circle jerk activities that produce nothing except for the manager feeling important (and this is coming a C level position, not your r/antiwork insanity)
Ahhh, Mr. Rockfeller, didn’t recognize you there. Most people in the US can’t afford the cars they have now, you want everyone to have 2?
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Paying by the hour is an antiquated concept for many fields, I feel.
Results are what matter not how much time out of the day one pretends to give a shit.
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The latest US census data shows the average household has 2 or more cars across the USA. How do you think the brokers on this site afford their fleet of high end sports cars?
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2 or more 12 year old cars (made up numbers obviously), is very different from what’s happening on this site. It’s like going into r/povertyfinance and extrapolating that everyone is broke, or standing in front of the Porsche dealership and declaring that everyone is buying Porsches.
So like I said, a nice ICE for long travel and a commuter cheap BEV would work for a lot of folks. I can’t tell what the age of the ICE would have anything to do with what I’m saying.