Let’s see some of your cold weather efficiency datapoints.
Here is the Ariya Evo+ AWD operating at average 20 degrees yesterday.
while DCFC peaked at 45kw
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Not just issues with the range the charging networks can’t always handle the cold either.
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This snip is from the Ariya forums. It’s questionable if it’s real…
-19 degrees
6 hours to charge to 80%, 11 hours to 100%
67% battery left, only 60 miles range.
Ariya has a heat pump, but seems to be ineffective below 20.
23 Volvo C40. 10k miles on it.
Usually at 90% and in 50-80 degrees get about 240ish miles.
Currently 20 degrees. With heat showing a range of about 170-180 miles. Probably closer to 150-160 in reality.
Considering I drive from NJ to VT most weekends in winter no way I could only live with an EV. Anything that involves cold or snow and long travel I switch to the XC90 (with snows). Even with almost 80k miles in 4 years I trust it way more in the winter than the C40.
Pic below is since the beginning of January. Including some below 20 days and driving down snow and dirt roads.
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My outgoing 2021 E-tron avg 1.8mi/kWh in cold temps and it could get over 160 miles and loose minimal range over cold night. Now I have a LFP tesla and oh boy does it eat juice overnight. Currently avg 2.8mi/kWh in a M3 rwd.
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26F charge at a urban tesla charger (72kW max). Vehicle preheated the LFP battery for about 15min.
Vehicle peaked at 38kW briefly and sat at a steady 33kW.
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EQB 350, parked, 75% 139 miles range, IME, it will get better if I drive it (160 miles). I was charging yesterday at 40F, got 30-60kwh in 150kwh charger.
How bad could it be?
Pretty bad. Here’s our new MX in cold weather with light-mid snow, 10kt+ crosswinds and cruising between 55 and 62
ThE FuTuRe
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Could you dumb this down for us no EV nerds? So you drove 239 miles using 312 ‘miles’ of battery? Is that the gist of it?
rated range
Averaged 2.1 miles/kwh coming out of VT into NY in a snowstorm at 14 degrees. Only pulling 43kw on this Albany plug
Does the Ariya have a heat pump yet or are they still using PTC heaters?
It has a heat pump
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From that link I’m thinking they let it get so low the heat pump can’t even activate?
Not as bad as others but lost 4% battery on 6 miles (round trip) in mid 20s today on my brothers Model 3 LR. Charging cover froze too requiring hot water to open. First world problems.
Don’t really care about the range since we only use it for local trip, however the recent frigid temp freeze up my wiper fluid. I wonder what wiper fluid the dealer put in this.
Heat pump doesn’t work in low temp
My understanding is that they can work in Zero Deg F. BUT if you are out of power, then it can’t start the heat pump for charging.