EV Adoption w/o Home Charger?

In the interest of civilized conversation, we have based our entire life around cars, and our infrastructure too.

A European could go up to us and ask, you give up huge swathes of prime real estate in your largest cities so you can each independently use your huge SUVs to get into your city centers, with all the pollution/noise they cause, and think that is acceptable?

This comes from a former TRX owner, so feel free to laugh at my hypocrisy.

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This is also becoming fashionable in Europe, so there’s that.

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Wars were fought and won over individual freedom.

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Some draw a lot more! Lol
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RV extension (14-50) will draw ~10KW :grin:

Just bc we have a car centric culture( which ofc has its own pros and cons) doesn’t mean someone needs to purposefully inconvenience themselves with their own car purchase when other reasonable alternatives would suit them better.

I’m on the side that don’t recommend that your car be a EV without having at least a Lvl1 Handy at home.

The Jeep Premature Electrification sorta sums it up and without even a Lvl1 Safety net you might have issues. (If not a PHEV)

We got an EV recently but no home charger yet (waiting for solar install), it has been a really pain. I won’t get one without having reliable charging available in your house.

Given the short commute to work and having access to Lvl 2 @ work, I don’t think you will have a problem.

In NH there are only a few NON-TESLA DC fast chargers in the whole state. Each charging station has just 4 (or less that are in-service). If you don’t have access to a level 2 charger either at home or work, and you didn’t buy a Tesla you will become frustrated. Ask me how I know :smile:

not in this dump of a state.

Umm, I suggested “early work time” only on the days OP would charge and based on the stated mileage driven that could be once a month :joy: get out of your comfort zone and take an adventure-it works… But everyone’s situation is different, what works for me or you, may not work for that other person

There are millions of people taking the Bus to work and wake up 30 minutes early if not more every day and don’t complain a bit, let that sink in :+1:

Now as far as saving would go-if OP has Free work charging that would be another $200/mo back into the pocket, let that sink in :+1:

As far as “saving the environment”-well tough luck on this one, nobody buys an EV for this reason-no matter what they tell ya :joy: let that sink in :+1:

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I’d own a Tesla without access to home charging, but I wouldn’t touch a CCS EV. I would not want to rely on primarily EA network outside of your work charging. Firsthand experience, it is very unreliable.

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Friend lives in Irvine, CA, probably the highest Tesla (and tennis courts) per capita in the world.
He and his wife loved the M3, so they bought MY as 2nd car.

No charger at home.
But there are superchargers 5 - 10 mins away in every direction.
Friend also has charger at work.

In his case I could see driving Teslas without a home charger.
I wouldn’t do it with a non-Tesla tho.

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Thanks for everyone’s feedback. Very helpful and insightful. While I think we could get by fairly well without dedicated home charging, we’ve decided not to get an EV for the time being.

With such a small commute, why not get a good range PHEV?

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Or a nice ebike!

Having done an EV without a reliable charging set up before I can say with certainty you will want to carefully consider this. In my apartment building I had access to a standard wall outlet but (faster) charging alternatives were a grocery store 10 mins away or where I worked 25 minutes away. We were fortunate that we had 2 cars to use so the EV sat most of the time unless it was a quick trip around town or when I took it to work. I figured sure I can go charge up quick while I get groceries but 8/10 times it was not convenient or spots were taken. Sometimes my charger at work wouldn’t charge all the way (some weird issue) so I’d be stuck working late just to get home. I saved a ton on gas but it was a pain in the A**. Something with 300+ mile range would be much better but still a concern.

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So… do I just have an electrician come over and install a 220 outlet in the garage?

It’s clear after 3 days with my first EV that relying solely on public charging isn’t going to work.

Partial sampling from my Electrify America adventures yesterday is below. (EA is free / unlimited with my vehicle).

The last EA location where I stopped (not shown) was a Target parking lot that showed 4 available and 1 in use.

When I got there, there was indeed one car charging, but the other three spots were blocked by two Teslas that were parked right in front of the charging stations – but they weren’t charging.

I don’t mean they were fully charged and waiting for the owners to return; they weren’t even plugged in. And there was tons of parking – this was around 8 a.m. on a Sunday.

Next I tried plugging in at the nearest mall, but while the chargers are free to use, I was charging at the rate of 0.3 miles per minute, and there are only so many things I need from Claire’s.

Right now I’m charging in the garage, where there is no spare 110V outlet, but I have a workaround.

If I back the car into the garage and leave the door into the house cracked open, I can plug the charging unit into a wall outlet in the entry area of the house.

Which gets me this:

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Go to Tesla station and park there and when they complain you say
The Tesla’s aren’t charging in my spot so I’m not charging in theirs…lol

Damn, that sucks, iced by a EV car.

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Pretty much yea, you just have a 220 installed and thats it…easiest solution for the long term

Some electrical companies offer incentives or rebates on installs, as well as chargers. Depends on your local company.

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