Deal Check X3 2024

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Hi Leasehackr Community,

I’d love your help evaluating this lease deal on a 2024 BMW X3 retired loaner with 8K miles. Here’s the breakdown of the offer I received w/ a trade-in:

  • Selling Price: $41,420
  • Term: 39 months
  • Annual Mileage: 10,000 miles/year
  • Residual Value: 56% ($27,294.70)
  • Money Factor (MF): 0.0004 (base MF used)
  • Monthly Payment: $571 (pre-tax) with $0 down
  • Non-Tax Fees: $1,123.97 (includes registration)

Questions for the Community:

  1. Does this seem like a fair deal for a loaner X3? Are there areas I should target for further negotiation (e.g., fees, structure)?

Thank you in advance for your insights!

What’s the MSRP and you’re paying true zero out of pocket?

.0004 is not a correct money factor, .0018 is buy-rate.

Also, how does your trade factor? You need to make sure they aren’t just moving money around.

MSRP is $52,399
correction MF is 0.0022

Trade-In Details:

22 BMW 330i with 18,365 miles
Trade-In Allowance: $28,000
Trade Difference 13,420
Payoff: $27,139.27

Trade value is fair, MF can’t be marked up on a 39 month lease, they may be doing it anyway to fudge the numbers a little, also there is no way that the MSRP is 52,399 tho, maybe that’s their advertised price before discount. It’s still possible this is actually a good deal, @IAC what do your Texas senses tell you?

Would need to see a worksheet.

They said $52,395 MSRP and Selling Price: $41,420 (20.9% off including $7,975 discount, $500 military discount, and $2,500 in rebates. I also questioned this as well like hmmm, I feel like that and the MF needs to be adjusted but they won’t budge anymore. They said this was the final offer.

So in reality closer to 15.22% on an 8K mile loaner (or 13.22% factoring the rate markup), as well as a 3.58% residual penalty for the mileage.

We’d beat this on a new car…

Is there any leverage I should try to apply to get this loaner deal closer to what would make it competitive with a new car (e.g., a larger discount or incentive adjustment)? I have a slightly higher deal from another dealer for a new x3 with M Sport Package that I liked more

Why would you want to make a loaner “competitive” with a new car? The whole point of leasing a loaner is to save a significant amount of money over a new car. Not “compete” with it.

A lot of dealers these days are opting to CPO/retail sell loaners and actually scoop some subsidy money rather than give it up to make a lease competitive against a new car.

BMW is offering subsidies to their dealers to move CPO cars beyond what is advertised? Do they ever pass these to customers?

Loaners get subsidy payment for use in fleet.

He’s saying that dealers are making more money just selling them as Certified Used Cars, there are no secret CPO rebates.

Thanks for the replies. Are you two related?

Not like, legally or anything

Thanks for the feedback!

Hi Leasehackr Community,

I’d love your input on this lease deal I received for a 2024 BMW X3 sDrive30i loaner with approximately 8,000 miles. The car is Python Blue with the Black M Sport Package , and here’s the full breakdown of the deal:

  • MSRP (Sticker Price): $56,685
  • Selling Price: $46,685 (before incentives)
  • Manufacturer Incentives: $3,000 total ($1,500 Loyalty, $1,000 Incentive, $500 Military Bonus)
  • Trade-in Balance Added: $853 (net negative equity)
  • Term: 39 months
  • Annual Mileage: 10,000 miles/year
  • Residual Value: 56% ($31,744)
  • Money Factor (MF): (Not listed, but I assume base MF)
  • Lease Acquisition Fee: $925
  • Upfront Fees (Registration, Doc Fees, etc.): $428
  • Sales Tax: $2,730.31 (6.25% Texas tax rate)

Payment Information:

  • Monthly Payment: $627 (post-tax)
  • Total Due at Signing: $0 (sign and drive)
  • First Payment: $627

Trade-in Details:

  • Trade-In Vehicle: 2022 BMW 3 Series
  • Payoff Amount: $27,000
  • Vehicle Value: $27,853
  • Negative Equity Rolled In: $853

You’re at 18% off, which depending on the mileage on the car, might be great, might be not so great, but you’re starting off fairly solid here.

The way this reads, is that their should be $853 in positive equity and not negative equity. If it really is negative I would write a check for it vs paying interest and taxes on another $853.

Absolutely never assume base MF, people with 800+ credit scores get marked up money factors all day long. It’s one of the many ways a dealer can make a profit.

Did the RV take into account the loaner miles? I assume it did since it appears as it came from the dealer but something I would double check.

Agreed, but on a 39 month lease, it (currently) must be base MF, it can’t be marked up, but that may not stop a dealer from quoting it with a markup, and then lowering the selling price come contracting time.