2024 Audi Q8 e-tron Premium Plus + Metallic paint + Black Optic + AC Charging Pkg + Trailer hitch + Cargo cover + floor mats*
36/10 lease
MSRP: $86,380
Sales Price: $80,230 (7.12% off)
Incentives: $14,000 (7500+5000+1500 loyalty on my 2017 all road)
Residual Value: 54%
Money Factor: .00225
DAS: $6500 | all fees, all taxes, first month’s payment, nitrogen in tires lol (what is that?)
LH score: 8.1 years
Probably should have posted this before your dealer initiated the swap.
7% discount is decent but there’s more meat on the bone. Here’s a broker near you in the NE that already had these discounted 12% 4 days into the month: 🦞 BostonCarConcierge November Audi Thread - Update 11/7 - Added 2 Q5s at 14% off w 20bps and a small product - #250 by Bostoncarconcierge
Also seems like 24 month is the sweet spot, and possibly cheaper to sign a 7.5k lease and buy more miles.
Thank you so freaking much! So I got the MF right and all the incentives. Can I switch to a 24 month deal? Or is that unethical. For the future, a couple questions… when a broker lists deals… like 12% off… does that mean on every car? For example, I want a particular set of options and interior color that I will not compromise on. I assumed that these deals (like the Macan deals on autocompanion) are for a certain set of cars the dealer is willing to work with a broker on. Or is that just a fiction I’ve told myself. Also, I didn’t even know there was a marketplace section here LOL.
You can, nothing wrong with it. Unethical if you try re-negotiate the discount. You can also do MSDs to save $50/mo
any idea why some audi dealers wont do MSDs?
Lazy, don’t know how to, I think. @DonnyAudi or @Samaudibh have insight.
Likely don’t know how to and don’t want to go through the effort of learning how. It’s very easy to do so.
I would refuse to give my money to a dealer that is charging for “nitrogen in tires.”
I’m thinking if they bump MF, then MSDs reduce the total amount of their kickback?
yeah, I asked for MSDs and they said they dont do them? But I am inspired to learn about them this morning and ask again, offering to walk through them together 
There could be a line item for “ambient air in tires” and it would be fine if the discount made up for it.
You’re negotiating with a business entity (the dealership) but the person green lighting that deal on their behalf is often getting paid for the BS line items.
So use that knowledge to your advantage.
This 100% … so scammy
If all I cared about was getting the best deal on a lease, I would agree. But I also do not want to support businesses that actively try to scam customers. Plenty of dealers out there that just give you a discount, dealer/doc fee, and required taxes/fees–no added BS. That is the kind of dealer I would want my mom or other family members to deal with, so that is the type of business I try to support.
Thanks! I was also thinking, since they are driving a car from Massachusetts (I think) to me, that the whole nitrogen issue will be moot. Right? I plan to say nah to the nitrogen. I FLOVE this entity insight.
Nothing should be viewed as moot or as a line item that can be added/removed in isolation.
You should know your target for total lease cost and be mostly indifferent to how they allocate line items to get there.
Absolutely, max g, I meant I am going to decline to pay for nitrogen (an upfront cost). I do have a target for total lease cost (only because leasehacker exists and I hit it. but for sure will line item the heck out of the deal at signing (fingers crossed).
It actually doesn’t change the reserve $$ from holding rate. It just reduces from where the rate is sold at. e.g. .000245 marked up sold at .0002 with max MSD’s still has the same reserve.
thank you. what does “reserve $$” refer to and what does “holding rate” mean appreciate your time and attention. all y’all
You don’t need to know this lol
It’s irrelevant to your negotiations, just push for MSDs
Lol Phew thx