I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t let you pay your taxes in the lease if you wanted to…
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I rented an SQ5 over Labor Day weekend. Last time I drove one was when I worked for Audi in 2018. What a POS it is. Nice interior but handles terribly. I would take a base Macan or a T all day over an SQ5 given the same costs.
Did I say they don’t let me? 
Of course they would, but I would have to finance the taxes (as I always did in past), and in case of Porsche that financed balance would be on top of $901/mo. That’s roughly around $4,000 (or more), depending on what the exact total cost/taxed amount is, or half of that if they bought my GLC for CarMax value. Monthly goes over $900/mo, and I want to stay within 900.
I think that’s pretty close to what you would get here on a loaner, so no need to lease in DC/MD/VA if you live in NY and have a local deal there, working with people who get that car for you at $700/mo with 4.5 DAS.
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Yeah, I wasn’t blown away either during my short test drive. But Benedetto thinks otherwise lol
I have nothing to say about a Macan. But: the costs are not even close.
P.S. @conanohasselhof told me if I test drive a Macan, I’d buy it 
You said it was a turn off that they wanted you to pay taxes up front, but it sounds like what you’re saying is you both didn’t want to pay them up front, and didn’t want to subject them to the interest rate of the lease loan, so you just don’t want a Porsche lease at all for that reason. I guess my point is that I don’t see what difference it makes where it comes from, broker, dealer, or otherwise.
It’s a great car for someone who doesn’t care about cars. Good looking, nice seats, virtual cockpit, big center screen, soft suspension. But it’s slow for 350hp and it handles horribly. It just wants to understeer and you need a ton of steering input to go fast around corners. I bet I would be faster in a base Macan since I would have confidence going into a corner knowing I won’t have to make multiple corrections and can carry the speed corner to corner.
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Ok, may be I have to reiterate and clarify, because I didn’t make myself clear
I wanted to pay $901/mo for 39 mo with 10,000 miles, with zero ($0) down. First month’s payment, sign and drive, zero down, that’s how I do all my leases. They asked for taxes upfront to get that payment/term on Macan. It’s not that I don’t want Porsche ‘at all’, but I am not going to pay over $900/mo for it. And tehy (I assume) won’t lease it to me for $900 without ‘taxes upfront’. Both parties demand more than other will provide, so deal couldn’t be closed. That’s what I meant.
I am not sure about your point (or the question you might be asking), so based on my interpretation of it I will say that I reached out to brokers not only to save time on hassling/haggling (I do that stuff effortlessly, for myself and family/close friends), but I think that a true broker who brings volume purchases to his contacts probably could get a greater discount that I could possibly get, even if broker’s fees are added to my costs, so I tried it at least. I work all angles when hunt for a car, I call my old contacts from dealerships I leased from in the past, establish new ones, check Edmunds, TrueCar, now Leasehakrs and etc.
I have stopped my search for now, enough dealers/brokers know what I look for. If stars align and better times/incentives roll, I am sure one of them will reach out to me.
BMW X3 m40i=Tech and Speed and mid priced
Audi SQ5= Tech and cheapest
Porsche Macan= Handling and driving feel but slowest and most expensive.
It just depends on what you’re looking for. Do you want the best canyon carver at the risk of getting taken to gapplebees by a base X5 or X7? Can you only afford or willing to pay a certain price? Do you just love the looks of one and don’t care about anything else?
For me personally, I’m speed and tech guy. So I picked a x3 m40i over the others. I didn’t want to spend the extra 15k for a Macan S/ 25k for a GTS over a X3. The cameras and sensors on the x3 are miles ahead of Porsche and probably Audi too.
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Only curious here, what’s the idea behind not paying inceptions up front? I can kind of get it in a low interest rate environment. I still chose to do a one pay. With historically high mf’s, esp Porsche, why pay interest on taxes, Acq fee, dealer fee, etc?
You total that car on your way from dealer’s lot to your home and you can kiss good bye to inceptions paid up front.
But in this instance, the total cost of lease also matters. I am willing to pay $901 x 39 for it, not $901 x 39 PLUS taxes.
You highjacked OP’s thread with your paragraphs. Slowdown, maybe?
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In all fairness, except my responses to OP and comments/responses directly relevant to one of OP’s top choices, I respond to what others post replying to me. If you don’t reply to my post, I won’t just come to type my story 
Fair enough, it’s a form of insurance. Was curious on the thought process. Obv everyone has a different risk / reward matrix.
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Yes, but aside from insurance you have to consider effective cost of a lease. I could lease base model 2024 GLC 4Matic(in theory, because I don’t like and won’t consider new gen GLC) for $659/mo., if I paid $5900 down, plus taxes and fees. But the effective monthly cost on it would be $23724+$5900+$Tax/Fees divided by 36. That is an overpriced lease, based on $48,500 MSRP on base model.
Word count limit? Should we add that to the suggestions thread?
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That poster has hijacked multiple threads. I’ve actually muted them and still can’t seem to escape them.
It seems to be their MO.
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Not trying to post anything off-topic here, but since some comments appear to be obvious attempts to silence on-topic conversation and expression of views by a fellow forum member, and done in a manner intended to intimidate and harass (I try to ignore or humorously deflect all personal attacks, to avoid bickering and fruitless cat-fighting on virtual space), I wonder if the following Rules are still in force here:
Trusted Hackrs are held to a higher standard than normal users. In addition to complying with these guidelines, Trusted Hackrs shall be professional and courteous. This includes:
6. Do not use your mod powers to “win” an argument or stifle views you disagree with, or otherwise act rudely.
** This is a Civilized Place for Public Discussion . The intent of moderation is to keep topics on track and the trolls at bay. Trolling and deliberate misinformation is not allowed.**
You’re welcome and encouraged to use the flag that’s under each post to report matters of concern.
I believe the only moderators who have posted in this thread are @max_g and me.
@max_g didn’t reply to you at all, and you attributed my (exquisite) taste in vehicles to either craving status or an inferiority complex.
This would be an ad hominem attack under the policy you cited.
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So basically what Eric51 is saying is he wants a $4K better deal than what any of the brokers can offer.
As for the Macan, it is a very nice vehicle, but the tech is years behind Audi and BMW. It drives better than the Audi and BMW, but not as fast as an X3m40i. I own both a Macan GTS and an X4m40i. The maintenance is the deal killer on the Macan, but since you only plan to lease it for 2 years you probably won’t have to deal with that expense. BMW maintenance is included for 3 years.
Bottom line, the Macan handles better than the BMW, but not as fast. You are going to pay extra for that handling, but the Macan will ride better in NYC as well.
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