Deal Check: Kia EV6 in Houston, Texas

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Located in Houston, Texas. Looking to lease a Kia EV6 so I can take advantage of the $7500 tax credit that is being offered. Would then immediately buy out the lease. I think there’s a little wiggle room to get closer to $4000 discount from the current $3100 they are offering.

I have never leased before, so this is all new to me. Attaching screenshot of offer from dealer. Not listed are the following:

-Acquisition Fee: $650
-Sales Tax: $705

Taxes are lower thanks to some Texas lease credits, which will help to avoid the dreaded double sales tax on the buyout that applies in Texas.

One thing that is not clear to me - what would my actual buyout price be on this transaction?

Thank you for any help!

Negotiate harder.

  • 7% interest is bad (But this is Base MF)
  • 10,600 off is … ok, there some meat left on the bone there.
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It would be very close to your net cap cost, plus tax.

Unless you did a big CCR to bring down your NCC to the RV.

Then your buyout would be your RV (and I’m guessing you’d save on taxes on the CCR amount).

Thanks - how much more meat do you think there is? I’ve contacted every Kia dealer within 200 miles and also gone through TrueCar, and best discount I’ve seen is $3800 off of MSRP.

Well, since your intention is to buy it out immediately, see if they’d agree to back out an extra 2% front end in exchange for 40bps of rate.

Thanks. So by CCR, you mean trade in or down payment, is that correct?

If I made a large down payment or trade in (say $20K or $25K), that would reduce the buyout price, and therefore the sales tax that would have to be paid in Texas on such buyout?

Correct.

Yes that’s my understanding.

The size of your CCR would be limited by not going below the RV.

Out of curiosity, why do you want to get this over Tesla Model Y. Model Y will beat EV6 in every category, especially in pricing. I was also searching for an EV6 last year, but during that time, the Model Y was priced at around $65K while the EV6 had a $7.5K federal rebate.

Biggest issue is that my wife is opposed to buying a Tesla. Also, we have a Telluride that is my wife’s car but I really like.

I test drove a Model Y and liked it, but to get most of the features that come with the EV6 on a Tesla, I’d have to go up to a Model X or S. Things like ventilated seats, 360 parking camera, instrument gauges, etc.

Between the $7500 leasing credit and dealer markdowns, I should be able to get the EV6 for around $10K below MSRP.

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Either of you Military or Retired military? $300 for that.

No, not military. We do have a vehicle financed with Kia, so I think we should qualify for the $1000 loyalty bonus, but I’m hearing different things from dealers.

If I go the purchase route, there’s $3750 cash back, plus $1000 loyalty, plus avoiding the acquisition fee, the small amount of double tax, and the cost of the loan to buyout, that brings the price difference to “only” around $1000, which may push me go purchase to avoid the hassle of the buyout.

I don’t see the Loyalty offer on the web or on the portal. Where did you see it?

Several dealers in Houston show it on their websites. Only applies to certain states, of which Texas is one of them. One dealer told me it only applies to 2022 models. One told me it’s not available. And three have told me that it would apply.

Some info here: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/kia-slaps-1-000-loyalty-discount-on-ev6

If so, then you are leaving a LOT on the bone. I’m seeing at least 11k off before loyalty.

I would ask these couple of questions to be sure about this deal,

Is the dealer using tax credits or are you paying full tax on it? (Most important for TX leases)

How is the monthly payment looking if you were to do lower the months or miles? (not familiar with Kia RVs)

Have you gotten quotes from other dealerships nearby?

Yes, as mentioned above (but not very clearly), getting lease credits to lower sales tax to around 1.25%.

Will ask about lowering mileage. Would this potentially lower the buyout price?

Waiting on quotes from other dealers.

Thanks

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Thats good news, not sure how Kia calculates their buyout price when changing mileage and stuff but good luck with your deal since Texas is the most confusing state when it comes to leases and buyouts :confused:

This will RAISE the buyout price as lower mileage = lower payments = Higher RV. Well it really shows after month 1, before that it really washes out.

Thanks to this forum, I learned about the double sales tax that applies when buying out a lease in Texas, and that dealers can offer lease credits to lower the sales tax on the initial lease to 1.2 or 1.3% (instead of 6.25%).

Does anyone know if a trade in or a large-ish down payment will also help to reduce the sales tax that would apply when buying out the lease? Almost seems like cheating if I made a trade-in or down payment of $15K towards the lease, only paid sales tax of 1.2%, and then bought out the car almost immediately at a lower price. Thanks!

You would pay sales tax on the sales price of the vehicle. So, if your buyout/payoff right now is $25k for example. You’d pay 6.25% sales tax on that figure. Down payment on the buyout would have no effect.

A trade-in might affect the amount you pay sales tax on, assuming it’s a vehicle that you own outright or is a traditional finance and you are facilitating the buyout through a dealer that is accepting your “trade.” Maybe someone else has some experience with that aspect of your question.