Who did you contact?
Bettenahusen Dodge of IL. I’ve been working with the sales/leasing manager. He has been pretty good to work with, up until I threw the 4% below invoice on him. He says its not possible…gave the market conditions, blah, blah, excuse. Other one is a more local dealer, which none of the locals are ever willing to play ball. It took me a few days of convincing that the MF & RV are able to be purchase order protected.
Local dealer is also saying that you cannot go below affiliate pricing, as Dodge will remove the affiliate program from the dealership if the exact affiliate pricing isn’t used.
I have another (somewhat close) dealer that just confirmed that she would do 4% below invoice on a HC.
I contacted Dan Cummins out of Kentucky, he confirmed that he would be 4.5% below invoice (with affiliate) for a HC. Good deal, but obviously much further away, so the 0.5% additional wouldn’t be justified for the distance. He also does require a $3K deposit. Seems a bit excessive, that wouldn’t shy me away on its own.
Tell us more…I havent been able to confirm
this.
I’ve been getting mixed answers. 2 or 3 dealers have said you can lock the figures in, and everyone else says it’s impossible.
Thats the result I have seen as well.
So what to believe, what to believe 
Did you have an positive equity at the end of your lease? That is the biggest factor when trying to determine to purchase a scat WB or lease the Hellcat. If there’s a fair chance of having a good amount of equity, that obviously can change the whole deal. I can order one at the calculator below.
So I currently have a ScatPack Widebody on order. My plan is to go through PenFed, but if that doesn’t work out then I would use the 0% financing (if still available at delivery). The question I’m debating now - am I an idiot for going this route or should I cancel the order and place a new one for this Hellcat lease? I’ve been trying to calculate/guess what the actual costs of each would be with the potential positivity equity (reducing overall ownership cost over said time). (See calculator above in previous post)
@Lazarus your expertise? Should I cancel my SP order and place one for a HC (lease)?
At $733/mo I’m absolutely canceling the order and talking to craig benner at koons or dan cummins for 4% under invoice for a hellcat.
Sunroof + hk should net you $78k msrp, at 4% below invoice u should be at 7% off msrp, run the calc from there but hc residuals are a lot better than scat pack and so is the damn near 0 mf.
Yea I had equity and my buddy who was a few months after me had about another 6-7k equity in his. He got a check for 12k, biggest reason was after three years he had 10k miles on it.
I was way under allotted too, not 10k low but Below 30k.
I wouldn’t bet on the insane amount of equity now tho, still money to be made tho.
Yeah, I feel like the lease is pretty damn good. And obviously you’re not paying much to use the banks money but its near impossible to guess the exact numbers for 24/36 months from delivery.
I’ve seen guys say that on the forum too. Some had less than 5k miles! To me, if it was with a killer lease, that is a bad deal when you figure cost per mile. I don’t understand why they would pay all of that to almost never drive the car.
That’s what I was thinking. I believe the buyout for the HC (at the termination of the 36 months) is like $45,650. I was trying to estimate possible book value by figuring what I believe many used cars are marked up (about 14-16%) and I deducted that from what a 3 year old, 30k mile HC would be worth for trade today. I come up with about $50-51k for a potential trade value on a 2021 HC in 2024 with 30k miles. That would yield approximately 4-5k of cash back.
In my buddies case he had a trackhawk the hellcat and a Ford raptor all at the same time. The hellcat in the north east is a 5-6 month car, and he really only took it out on weekends. The scatpack is fun but for the money right now it’s no worth it…get a LT1 camaro for a third of the price.
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I came out of a 2SS (not leased). I have a baby due in October, so I got out while the getting is good. I made some money selling it. I wouldn’t be happy with an LT1 and I certainly wouldn’t buy one. The leases are (were) decent, but that doesn’t help what I’m trying to accomplish. The ScatPack I’m planning on financing, again either through PenFed or the 0% APR. I don’t really foresee getting a better price unless I settle for a leftover one (which could be a long time down the road since there is minimal inventory now; there may not be many leftover ‘21s next year). I have a little over 4% under invoice, hopefully 0% apr and I don’t have to pay for anything that I don’t want. The ScatPack leases suck, especially the WB…if that’s what you’re referring to.
I think there may be some confusion, If I reread your post correctly… The calculator showing $733/mo is for the lease on the Hellcat. That has nothing to do with the scatpack.