Deal Check - 24 BMW i7Xdrive60 M Sport

Hello,

I’m currently looking to lease a prior loaner/demo 2024 BMW i7 xDrive60 with 8,283 miles on it and wanted to get some insight on whether this is a solid deal or if there’s possibly some room to negotiate.

The deal is structured as a 36-month lease with 10,000 miles per year and includes the complimentary charging that comes with the 2024 i7s for the full lease term.

The dealer didn’t list the money factor (MF) in the breakdown, but verbally confirmed it’s 0.00113.

When I plug their numbers into the lease calculator, I’m not able to match their figures exactly — not sure if I’m missing something.

  1. MSRP: $131,845.00
  2. Initial Cap Cost: $102,000.00
  3. Residual %: 52.20% (Adjusted for mileage)
  4. Cash Down: $9,700.00 ($3,400 down + $6,300 MSD’s)
  5. Rebate: $11,900.00
  6. Money Factor: 0.00000 (wasn’t disclosed)
  7. Disposition Fee: $495.00
  8. Total Adds to Cap: $925.00
  9. Adjusted Cap Cost: $90,962.91
    10: Base Monthly Rental: $795.51
  10. Total Monthly Payment w/tax: $879.04
  11. Purchase Option Fee: $300.00
  12. Total Initial Fees: $119.00

So basically $3,400 down + MSD - 36 months - 10k miles annually for 879 tax included.

I wouldn’t call this down, but rather as Cash due at signing: you should get that 6,300 back.

How does this discount compare once you subtract out any money factor markup. compare to the Marketplace? I’m guessing a small markup here but post your best effort of a calculator and we can see what’s going wrong.

With 7 and 8 it looks like you have the acquisition and disposition fee added into you calculations.

Should have taken a lease transfer. This deal sucks. My deal was about $640 a month if I didn’t have negative equity.

There’s a few on swaplease I would do

Of course you can’t. Lots of info missing. Based on the scant info provided (I’ve seen worse), here is what I’ve been able determine…

Sell Price 102000.00 … (dealer discount = 29845?)
Acq Fee 925.00
Gross Cap 102925.00
CCR 11962.09
Adj. Cap 90962.91

MF = .00113 (confirmed via calculation)
RV = 68824.71
Term = 36
Sales Tax Rate = 10.50%
Rebate = 11900.00

Base Pay = .00113 x (90962.91 + 68824.71) + (90962.91 - 68824.71) /36
= 795.51
Pay w/tax = 795.51 x 1.1050 = 879.04

Lease Inception Fees
1st Pay 879.04
Cash CCR 62.09
CCR Tax 1256.03 … 11962.09 x 10.50%
Initial Fees 119.00 … needs to be itemized
Doc Fee 85.00 ???
Doc Fee Tax 8.93
Other Fees 989.91 (gov fees? Tire Fee?) … needs careful scrutiny
Total Fees 3400.00
7 MSD’s 6300.00 … 7 x 900
Total Due (DAS) 9700.00

3400 down means cap reduction (CCR). You’re not putting 3400 down. The 3400 covers upfront fees.

FWIW- Don’t waste time trying to decipher a dealer’s worksheet or chasing after them. Otherwise, you’re allowing them to control the deal. They often omit a lot of relevant detail such as money factor; fees not itemized and even make mistakes. You need to rely on credible outside sources (e.g., LH marketplace and signed deals, Edmunds, etc.). Do your own research and establish a reasonable selling price in your local market. Be sure to get a copy of the factory window sticker. Check for non-factory add-ons or dealer-installed options. And, if possible, eliminate those you don’t need or want. Get a list of all customer and dealer rebates/incentives including VIN#-specific discounts/incentives, if any. And, yes, the dealer has such a list.

The only thing useful about dealer lease worksheets is the input data. All data should be vetted such as acquisition fee, doc fee (regulated by some states), cost of money (e.g., money factor), gov fees, residual, rebates/incentives, sales tax rate, etc. Make sure the residual matches the term and annual mileage requirement. Check available tax credits/incentives via the fund provider who may cover taxes or, at minimum, may assess a lower sales tax rate to energize sales for some models.

Organize all relevant data with the goal of creating a lease proposal that reflects your target deal. The idea is to create your own target deal (proposal), not replicate the dealer’s deal.

Craft a professional-looking one-page lease proposal (example below- the round peg, round hole won’t work) and email it to the sales manager (SM), not a floor salesperson as they’re often Mickey D order takers and lack knowledge. Contact the SM via phone first. Introduce yourself and tell him/her that you will send them a one-page lease proposal b/c you want to get a deal done today or tomorrow.

This document will speak volumes about you. When the SM sees your proposal, he/she will immediately know that it’s time to put their toys and board games away and get down to business. All numbers should be accurate otherwise, you’ll lose credibility. Negotiate via phone/email. Once an agreement is reached, ask the dealer for a review copy of the lease agreement and all contract addenda BEFORE you go to the dealer and sign. Moreover, it’s helpful to know the terms and conditions of the lease contract such as early termination liability criteria and purchase option criteria as well as lease amortization methodology and excess wear/tear criteria. If all is as agreed, tell the SM that you’ll come in to sign asap. You don’t want any surprises or dealer excuses like …. Oh, we made a mistake. That’s unacceptable and shouldn’t be tolerated.

If the dealer isn’t transparent or is uncooperative or showing signs of incompetence, WALK AWAY AND MOVE ON!

Leasing is time-consuming and requires a good deal of study and attention to detail. If you don’t have the time to commit, perhaps your best alternative is a good broker. There are some outstanding brokers on this website. However, if you’re willing to commit your time and resources, be sure to always control the deal. That can only be achieved with education which breeds confidence and increases the likelihood of success.

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Calculator attached. I think the difference might be a marked up MF since they are not disclosing the MF on their structure. They only provided the MF to me verbally.

Did you get a quote saying the exact cost of registration and a fee breakdown? What’s your ZIP code of regisration (sales tax)

Really appreciate you breaking that all down — super helpful and definitely cleared up a few things I wasn’t totally sure about. Honestly, I posted more just to get a quick deal check and see if anyone’s landed a better deal recently so I could compare mine. Thanks again for all the info!

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10.5% - zip 91754

Mileage hit is $.30 not 25. Grind them down to at least 25-26% and ask to at least split the difference on the RV markup to 20 points. And lose that $3400 DAS, MSDs only IF help!

Finally, what’s the extra 1000 in incentives? 5900+5000+???

$1000 college grad. They won’t budge at all, they are stuck at that 22.6% discount and won’t move at all from there.

Then push them to do buy rate. Hopefully, they’ll come back to their senses before the EOM.

Does this car have M Sport? If yes, do you have to have it? Color choices? There are some non-sport i7s that can possibly be hacked.

Yes it has M Sport and yes I need M Sport. Lol

It is also a desirable color combo. Black Sapphire on Black Extended Merino with 21 inch black 909m wheels and black M sport brake calipers.

Also equipped with DAPP, Premium, M Sport Pro, and front massaging seats.

Nice build for sure. Sounds like the dealer “knows what they got” because 22% and 40 points mark up isn’t very competitive on a 2024 loaner with 9K mi.

Would you consider either a non-M sport i7 or a very loaded I5 M60 (I just happen to have one for transfer)?

Beautiful car! However, the non black interior is a deal breaker. Wife is adamant about having black interior. :frowning:

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Thanks! Is the car for you or for Mrs? The interior is actually two tone: seating surfaces silvery gray, bottoms/carpet/parts of doors/dash black in case it matters. More high res pix here. Main thing is that is a crazy fast FUN car!

https://www.swapalease.com/mobile/lease/details/2024-BMW-i5.aspx?salid=1711647

Where is this deal?? If you don’t want it, lmk! I really need a deal like this

In SoCal? Everything is $1000/mo

Yeah @djrabbi needs to relocate to SoCal then see how he does by being a small fish in a pond full of ballers. They crack down hard on MT tags driving around too.

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