Hi all,
Looking for any advice you all may have on this Audi A6 Allroad 2023! No real negotiation yet however inventory on this model is non-existent so am not expecting much dealer movement given its a hot commodity (but tell me I’m wrong!). Thanks!! Here is the screen shot with the details:
You’re much better off buying this than leasing. The lease is going to be atrocious no matter what
That can’t be the base MF, right? Man, that’s S class money for an A6.
Just looking at the interest, this is not a car to lease. If you really have to have it, purchase it.
The MF is nuts. I’m considering a purchase - just like the optionality a lease brings, especially with the world moving to EV in 3 years…willing to pay some premium for that optionality (as it does have an intangible value) but trying to understand just how atrocious this really is (and if there is room for improvement)
Just remember that it’s a lot harder to get out of an Audi lease. Frankly, I don’t see a downside to purchasing it. At least with a finance, you can get anyone to buy it out. With a lease, you’re going to be hamstrung on who can pay it off (more specifically a different payoff unless it’s an Audi dealer).
Is a wagon over SUV body style worth a few hundred a month?
To some people. I love wagons but I can’t justify the added cost over SUV/CUV counterparts. And most dealers don’t want to move them for large discounts because they just don’t make/sell much wagons in the US.
Just like @Supakimchee said, you have less optionality with a lease.
I’m not sure what this even means on a personal level. What are you waiting for or expecting to change? There won’t be a paradigm shift in charging infrastructure or anything else EV-related in 3 years. The pros and cons of EV ownership will be largely the same.
On a personal level if you’re thinking “this might be my last ICEV” then get something memorable like an ///M or AMG or RS something. But Audi’s version of a Subaru Outback cannot be your last hurrah.
FYI : you have 2k in add ons and 1.3k in service contract added with a few hundred dollar discount. This is atrocius
I think people forget what type of infrastructure is needed for mass EVs on the road. I live in SoCal so there’s a ton of EVs here, but even now, EVs only make up a small fraction of the car market in SoCal. We are probably decades away from EVs being the dominant powertrain versus ICE vehicles.
Saying that, it’s probably too early to base car purchases on where EVs will end up in the future.
Yep. Plan to ask about this. Any idea what “service contract” even is? No idea what they are throwing in as the “add ons” or the additional cap items which are almost another 2K. Any ideas on that?
If it’s even EVs (Akio Toyoda went on record recently as saying a silent majority of car manufacturers are not totally on board w/ BEVs being the next dominant powertrain).
But, to bring this back on topic, agree w/ all that this car is structurally just not a good lease and that it makes no sense to base a car lease/purchase simply based on what the world might be moving to in 3 yrs (it’s not like gas stations are going to disappear).
I think hybrids are actually the long term answer, which is a bit disappointing since everyone seems to be all in on EVs.
I still enjoy my ICE cars - 2035 is looming in CA and I’ll probably end up buying used cars in the future to scratch that itch.
$1399 looks like Audicare. It does raise residual 1% if you add it during purchase. If you ask them to remove it, your residual will decrease 1%.
Thanks, Rusty. That’s useful information. Sorry for what may be a stupid question but how would I determine if dropping the residual 1% will cost me more than $1399?
The bottom line will remain the same for 3 years and longer: having an EV means needing a charger at home or work.
Residual is off MSRP, so 1% is $703 in your case, added to depreciation. It will cost you $703 vs $1399, but you will be responsible for paying maintenance costs.
Do you really need this car?
This question makes me smile. Does anyone ever really need any specific car?
Thanks so much, Rusty. Judging generally by the responses as well as my initial thoughts, if I go with this it will likely be with a purchase instead of a lease. Though I would need to compare the cash flow / terms on a purchase in order to check it apples to apples with the lease terms.
