Car carrier on fire in mid-Atlantic - Porsche and VW inside

https://www.wsj.com/articles/volkswagen-in-advanced-talks-over-porsche-ipo-11645525495

You mean like mortgage backed securities before 2008?

Is this similar to derivatives or collateral debt obligations?

The key difference is that insurance is highly regulated and insurers are required to be well capitalized.

That coupled with diffused risk is a good thing (in very simplistic terms, the financial crisis was a failure to diffuse risk. Too few institutions were holding too many risky assets and/or guaranteeing against losses).

Otherwise every big oil spill and major hurricane would lead to bankruptcies of sole insurers lacking any reinsurance protection, 100s of thousands of unpaid home/auto claims for consumers, and thousands of unemployed employees.

Plus market turmoil from fire sales of these insurers’ investable assets.

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Estimates for this are now as high as $400M, but there is one more complication

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a39188600/lamborghinis-bugattis-felicity-ace-cargo-ship/

Initial reports said that around 1100 Porsche vehicles, 189 Bentley vehicles, and approximately 100 Volkswagen Golf R, GTI, Arteon, and ID.4 vehicles were on the ship. Now we learn that Lamborghinis are also part of the picture. Automotive News reports that dozens of Lamborghinis, mostly Urus SUVs as well as Aventador and HuracĂĄn models, are on the ship.

Lambo looking at possibly restarting Aventador production to (re)build those final units.

They will. Porsche lost some gt2rs cars off France in ‘19, and they had to restart production. There is definitely precedent, and consumers will be very pissed if they don’t get their final edition Aventadors, or Huracan STOs, etc.

As long as they can get the parts…

my local Porsche dealer said about 50 of their cars were on the ship. not sure if that was a fib or not, but if so, that sucks for them.

And the saga continues…

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/felicity-ace-sinks-along-porsche-145400189.html

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At least the fire is out now

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Better this way to cover up the cause of the fire

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Bye, Felicity!

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RIP Land Rover Santana and Prelude.

The list of cars that sank just came out :frowning:

TLDR

Brand #
Audi A5 Convertible 84
Audi A5 Coupe 43
Audi A5 Sportback 147
Audi e-tron 121
Audi etron GT 1
Audi Q2 1
Audi Q3 297
Audi Q3 Sportback 144
Audi TT 7
Audi TT Roadster 1
Bentley Bentayga 77
Bentley Continental GT 38
Bentley Continental GT 50
Bentley Flying Spur 25
BMW 750i (2007) 1
Fendt tractors 12
Ford Mustang (2015) 1
Honda Prelude (1996) 1
Kia Soul (2014) 1
Lamborghini Aventador 15
Lamborghini Huracana 20
Lamborghini Urus 50
Land Rover Santana (1977) 1
MAN TGM (truck) 1
Mini Country Man (2019) 1
Nissan Versa Note (2018) 1
Porsche 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 1
Porsche Cayenne (2015) 1
Porsche Cayenne, Macan, Panamera 30
Porsche Other - Taycan, 911, etc. 558
Seat Ateca 3
Volkswagen Caddy 47
Volkswagen Golf 199
Volkswagen ID.4 159
Volkswagen Jetta (2017) 1
Volkswagen Taigo 1
Volkswagen Transporter T6 116

Probably servicemember cars for the random/older ones.

65th prelude ever produced for a collector. feelsbad

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That’s a lot of banayahoos

I think they lost some value on the way to the bottom of the ocean :joy:

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#whoops another cargo ship en fuego

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/07/26/fremantle-highway-cargo-ship-fire-3000-cars/

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Another article said EV on board might have been to blame…

Like the last couple, they won’t know until they investigate whatever remains, after the fire is out.