Buyout or Negotiate New Lease #Mazda

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I will do my best to summarize this after the research I’ve already done so please bear with me…I’m a newbie :wink:

Current Situation - Lease is up June 16, Location St. Petersburg FL

Vehicle Description

Vehicle: 2018 MAZDA CX-5 Grand Touring Sport Utility 4D

Drive -4WD/AWD

Transmission - Automatic

VIN - JM3KFADMXJ0337438

Mileage -5,700

Color: Gray

2 Sets of Keys: Yes

I’ve contacted the bank and buyout/residual value = $20,934 @ 4.84% APR for 60 months, monthly payment = $393.51 (which is more than I want to pay for this term)

My lease payment was/is $328.55 @36 months.

My dilemma…I ultimately would like to wind up with a vehicle that’s paid off in the next five years looking at the low mileage and considering the vehicle is in excellent condition I am not sure if I should go with the buyout for this existing lease or negotiate a better deal for a 2021 vehicle via a new lease negotiation which would provide me a better residual value if I were to go and buy that lease out in 3 yrs.

Does any of this make sense :thinking:

If your goal is to have a paid off vehicle in 5 years then it doesn’t make any sense to go lease another new car now. In 36 mos you will be right back in the same position.

At a high level deals on new cars now are not great at all (low inventory, chip shortage, yada yada yada). And purposely targeting a car with a low RV to make it “easier” to buy out at the end also doesn’t make any sense, the lower the RV the worse the car will lease, generally speaking.

If the ultimate goal is to own the car then it rarely makes sense to lease first then buy it out.

What is the current market value for your CX-5 and how does your buyout compare to that?

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Mazda has some pretty serious inventory issues on their hands currently so it will be tough to get a decent deal.

4.84% seems pretty high as a rate to buyout the lease. You can likely get much lower by arranging your own financing through PenFed or another bank.

Additionally, your buyout is well below what a CPO would be

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It makes absolutely no sense to lease driving 2k miles per year. You’re wasting a lot of money on mileage depreciation that you’re not utilizing.

If you like the CX5 just buy it, assuming that the residual value is at or below current market value.

Surely you can do better than 4.84% APR if you do some research. Local and national credit unions are the way to go.

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Current market value is 23K - 25K, the dealer will pay out trade in value and my payment would be lower for a new 2021 GT loaded so if my mileage is low at the end of this term I should be in the same place in 3yrs but I’d be able to save to actually buyout the vehicle vs. financing it?

One thing you missed: is the current Mazda lease with Chase or TFS?

TFS? Not sure what that is

Current lease is through Mazda Capital/Chase Bank

I have no idea what you’re talking about here. How is spending another $10-$12k to wind up in the exact same place allowing you to save?

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Yea, I’m not following the logic either.

Even if you’re able to lease a new one for $50/mo cheaper, and you save that for the next 36 mos., is that extra $1800 really going to make a material difference in the exact same situation you’re in right now?

Honestly, with only 5,700 miles on the clock, and given the current state of the new & used car market, and that your goal is to have a paid off car in 5 years, the only sensible option is just to buyout your current car. No other options even come close to making sense.

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Just FYI: Mazda uses Toyota Financial Services now, so if you lease a new Mazda, unless something has changed, you will still need to pay the disposition fee to Chase and inception to TFS (so there is no loyalty). It’s as if you switched brands anyway.



Hopefully these images come through

The images came through fine, but what’s not coming through is what exactly you’re trying to achieve here.

If you’re hell-bent on leasing a new one then by all means go for it, but don’t try and fool yourself into thinking that that’s going to somehow save you money or cost you less than just buying out your current car.

To lease a new one and then buy it, you’ll be paying $2k trade equity + $12k lease payments + $18k residual = $32k on a car you could buy now for $27k, does that seem like a good deal?

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Not to mention TTL

But there is a :slight_smile: at the bottom

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Does this mean you already leased a new one? Since you’re posting pictures of a deal sheet and a 2021 with the protecting sheeting from it being shipped to the dealer? Sort of seems like you already had your mind made up since after asking for advice, not a single person seemed to agree leasing a new one makes any sense for you.

But hope you enjoy the 2021 more than you did your 2018.

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First you have to decide what you want. Do you want a fully paid off car in five years or do you want to drive a new car every few years? Those are very different goals.

If you want a fully paid off car in five years, buy out the 2018. Get a 5-year loan from dcu.org at 1.49%. Chances are you’ll never again be able to buy a used car at a price so far below market value as the opportunity you have now.

If you want to drive a new car every few years, lease a new one. But don’t hesitate to separate the new lease from selling the 2018. You said market value is $23-25k. Why would you sell to the dealer at $21k? Get quotes from Carvana, Carmax, Vroom, etc. Since you’re with Chase you can still do a third-party buyout for now.

And find a better new lease deal. With the amount of equity you’d give up by trading in the 2018 your effective payment would be pushing $500. 0.00114 MF with a $1k dealer discount after the doc fee isn’t a reasonable deal for a CX-5. If you’re not able to find a decent new lease now, you could always extend your current lease for a few months while you look.

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It’s a re-occurring theme on this website to ask the hackers then do the exact opposite of what the hackers suggested.

Research for a better APR and buy the 2018. If not, then your goal is not what you’re telling us it is.

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Ok y’all let’s take a step back and STOP assuming - nothing was purchased and no deals were made - geese

Maybe OP can provide some actual numbers.

You drop pictures without context. Perhaps consider not making misleading posts if you get offended when we are left to make assumptions in the vacuum of actual updates or detail.

Anyway, glad to see you delayed making an awful lease decision. You dodged a bullet by not throwing away money on that 2021 and getting ripped off on you 2018 (taking $2k under market value).

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