Can DOC fees be negotiated with brokers? Definately going in that direction for my next lease, but some doc fees ive seen are a bit high, anyone got feedback on this topic? Staying in my state, not doing out of state lease.
In Florida they will not budge on doc fees. You are better off trying to get a higher discount. Don’t get fixated on any specific part of the lease like money factor or doc fee. Look at the overall cost. You can have one deal with a low doc fee that actually costs you more than another one with a large doc fee because the car has a bigger discount.
You tagged New York where doc fees are limited and very modest. Not really something to worry about. Given the supply issues, I don’t see you negotiating it away any time soon.
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If you are indeed residing in the New York Adirondacks then the Doc fee is no big thing at all. You pay $175 in New York, which is very low compared to other parts of the country. If a broker is managing to get a deal for you that has some dealer discount at the moment then you can choose to look at it as if the fees are being covered by some of that discount.
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If you’re purchasing from a New York dealer doc fees are capped at $175.
Outside of New York the average for most stores is a couple hundred bucks typically ( some stores might not even have one) with Florida being an exception.
Florida is like the wild west and I’ve seen $1,000+ doc fees.
thats true! Ny does have limits on this!
Many states do, ca at 85, pa at 389 (used to be much lower). Just about local laws. Honestly, if deal is better then what you can get locally, broker and dealer fee included, suck it up and pay it (because it’s about the overall result, not the breakdown).
Same as a higher mf and bigger discount.
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I think, generally, if you hire a broker (or not) you shouldn’t particularly get hung up on 1 aspect (doc fee, MF etc.) of the deal during negotiation. You should try to figure out the best price possible (within an acceptable margin) price for a car & work towards that instead of getting hung up on 1 particular aspect of a deal.
Unless you are planning on buying the car, how the sausage is made doesn’t really matter.
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I’d say buying doesn’t matter either on how the dealer distributes the numbers and fees. Assuming you keep your focus and conversation squarely on your out the door pricing target.
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True but i should have been little clearer,
What i meant is if you’re trying to buyout the vehicle either right away or at the lease end (as sometimes it makes sense based on incentives) then it matters a little bit where the incentives are applied etc.
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