Anyone who signs this needs their head examined
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If you thought this is crazy, check out other posts here where people are paying $8k mark up on a RAV4 hybrid, $15k for a Sienna, and $20k for a Sequoia.
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Exactly, a simple search on LH will find brokers with up to 6% off on the new X1.
Example above by a broker, is 6.5% off Launch Edition.
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Thanks. What I’m looking for are experiences from RAV4 owners since I’m not familiar with the model or brand and it’s hard to find one to test drive in the next few months.
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May I ask the delivery timeframe if order a x1 now?
Should have by January if we catch a November allocation assuming no stop sales.
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RAV4 has standard ACC(adaptive cruise control), part of TSS feature, great for long road trip, so far you can’t option ACC in the new 2023 X1 for some reason, maybe chip shortage.
RAV4 has better speaker compare to base 2022 X1 speaker unless you get HK sound which I highly recommend. Maybe they improve 2023’s base speaker, gotta go in and take a listen once they land.
Gas modal RAV4 has this stop&start system which you need to turn off every time, since it will reset every time when you turn on the car. Hybrid won’t be that noticeable.
For X1, or any BMW, it’s easier to use Bimmercode to program it to remember your last setting so you don’t need to hit the button every time.
Starting 2022MY, RAV4 is able to display individual tire pressure, X1 has that as standard.
X1 does have the package for auto folding side mirror, RAV4 doesn’t, you will need to go up to Venza for that.
X1 drives better than RAV4, but since it’s front bias torque steer is pretty noticeable, but not as bad as GLB/A.
X1 is quieter compare to RAV4.
X1’s interior is at the whole new level, you will need to compare it with NX…
Sit in the X1 and listen to the door close, you will feel lot safer in there compare to R4’s hollow door…
If you want to lease, try X3, it’s older so higher % of discount easily, so far 10% before incentives shouldn’t be a problem. 2023 X1 is too new, dealer most likely won’t give that much. At the end their payment should be pretty similar, you can also option rear door sunshade for X3, good for sunny so-cal weather 
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Dropped a 740 for service in august? last year and they said all they had was a mini or an x1… x1 was fine but disappointed with the loaner for a 7 series.
X1 is basically a mini. The wheels are so small but it was a decent car for what it was.
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Second this. It’s a better car than both of them.
I prefer the Tucson.
You won’t find that here. What you’re apparently going to find is some people gaslighting you into thinking that your no. 1 priority isn’t important at all.
Edmunds and Cars.com have plenty consumer reviews in addition to their own editorial.
Had a 2019 RAV4 limited for about a year. Noisy cabin, back would start to ache on longer drives(2hrs+) and no real seat adjustment for the front passenger. Decent gas mileage (30 mpg). Oil filter change was about $30( 5 qt jug from Costco and Bosch/ Toyota oil filter) . Had one recall to fix the fuel pump. Dropped the car off, shuttle took me home and picked me up once it was done.
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Jump into the vehicle/model forums on the interwebs (rav4 world, bimmerfest etc). Its slightly one sided, based on the minority of vocal users, but you’ll see trends emerge and find real long term reviews.
Hot shot clickbait central car jounos both established and YT variety are really not that great of a source of information since they always have a limited time experience, and frankly their requirements for a vehicle are sometimes outlandish. One youtuber uses a “door thud” test as a metric for quality…smh
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Had a 2022 Rav4 hybrid that I used a few months before flipping. I hated that thing. Loud on the highway. Felt like I was driving a boat. Gas mileage was alright (37-38 real world).
In terms of your goals, rav4 is what you need. BMW has everything you don’t prioritize.
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Drive both on highway high speed ( engine noise check ) and on a bad road ( drive comfort check ) . Last I checked BMW was superior in this size.
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Have a Rav4 XLE, the experience is that it is a reliable suv. nothing flashy nor lavish. it has the basics and a few nice things like heated seats and steering wheel if you need it. The oldschool sunroof is ok but is not panoramic unless you go to the limited or adventure trim.
Service is minimal, that’s why Toyota doesn’t give loaners.
BMW , I have no experience with but what here has already been echoed. It will cost more to repair from parts and Labor perspective unless you can find a good BMW tech at an independent shop.
BMW will give you 3 yrs maintenance and loaner vehicles. Is that worth $5k more in MSRP?
and also I be the Toyota will have better residual than the X1 since it isn’t a rare BMW.
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Loaner vehicles have nothing to do with 3 year maintenance warranty. Loaners are dealer provided. You can have your 20 year old BMW serviced at BMW dealer and still get a loaner.
BMW warranties:
3 year/36k free maintenance
4 year/50k bumper to bumper
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Not sure how much time you have before needing a car but the 2023 CRVs (higher trims) seem stunning, IMHO. Might be worth checking out.
The 1 year warranty on the A/C system is very odd
5-Year / 60,000-Mile
New Vehicle Limited Warranty
Covers repair or replacement of any component manufactured or originally installed by Hyundai that is defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.
The following components are covered for time and mileage limits indicated:
- Radio and audio systems (i.e., radio, compact disc player, DVD player, navigation system and Bluetooth®): for MY 15 and prior, 3 years/36,000 miles—Equus: 5 years/60,000 miles
- Radio and audio systems (i.e., radio, compact disc player, DVD player, navigation system and Bluetooth®): for MY 16, 5 years/60,000 miles for all models
- Paint: 3 years/36,000 miles
- Battery: for MY 15 and prior, 3 years/unlimited miles (100% covered 2 years/unlimited miles; after 2 years and within 3 years, 25% cost of battery and 100% labor cost covered)
- Battery: for MY 16, 3 years/36,000 miles (no proration)
- Air conditioner refrigerant charge: 1 year/unlimited miles
- Adjustments: 1 year/12,000 miles
- Wear items: 1 year/12,000 miles (e.g., belts, brake pads and linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs and fuses)
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