Hey leasehackrbmw!
Good new, the M will get a plug! Now you can take all your 600+ hp to the carpool lane where you will sit “patiently” behind a blazing fast Prius…good times ahead!
“For me, power PHEV is the next step,” Frohlich says. “Of course, that car will be between 1,600 to 1,700 kilograms (3,500 to 3,700 pounds), all-wheel drive, and 600 horsepower at least.”
I must say…i’m intrigued!
As long as they dont start discontinuing regular cars like the auto industry has almost abolished the manual transmission… its all good !
How true that’s become!
Lol only in 6 years minimum? geez
We’re still years away from ICE dying. Outside of CA, the infrastructure isn’t robust enough yet.
I’m not saying some ICE models won’t die, but being EVs are only 1% of sales now, with half being in CA, there’s still gas in the tank, so to speak, for ICE.
I just read an article in the Times where someone drove round trip from LA to Vegas in a Bolt. 8 hours to drive it, and 5 more to “gas up.” That’s a pretty heavily traveled route too.
IDK how many people are willing to take a road trip and spend that much time “filling up” at this point, finding a charger, planning a route around a charger and hoping it’s available, etc…
That’s here in the US. I’m sure it will get better but right now I totally agree with that. ICEs are going to be around for awhile. Many countries in the EU have all EV mandates within the next several years. We can watch from the sidelines how that plays out for them.
In 6 years steering wheels could be the rarer option than ICE though if Waymo and Uber have anything to say about driverless tech. It’s coming way faster than people give it credit for.
Maybe because I’m not a young, 20 something millennial, but I have absolutely zero interest in a car without a steering wheel that drives me. I guess I’ll be buying used instead of leasing if that actually comes to fruition.
This is a rebuttal to that article from an owner that knows its car. I can drive to Legas in a week if i do it the dumb way. How do you get to 8 hours?..lol, that’s just nuts! It’s only 270 miles which should last you in one charge.
What Do I Drive? A 2017 Chevy Bolt EV... And It's Fantastic
That’s for the BEV, the phev will be here much sooner.
I’ve driven it in an ICE. I’m just the messenger though… It was a round-trip journey though, so 8 hours, especially if there was traffic, isn’t out of the realm.
The drive from Southern California to Las Vegas is horrific under any circumstances.
Las Vegas itself is pretty horrific, but if I had to make that trip, I’d fly.
Yes, i know. And to be fair, you can get to 5 hours if you have no DCFC option on the car…but if you get it without that option, should you really complain when it takes you longer to charge? I had one ev without it in the past but would have never attempted a road trip in it.
In hindsight, you don’t have to pay extra to fill your tank up with gas any quicker. I get what you’re saying, but I can see the other side of it too.
True…but let me ask you this…if you had the option to pay $1K less for your car the only difference being your gas tank is half the regular model would you do it if your car was a short work commuter? Been there, done just that…saved some money and never bothered me. The new eGolf came with it so i had no say in it but if i had i would have do it again and not get the option.
Gas? Sure, I’d take a car with a smaller gas tank to save 1k on a commuter. Hell, I’d do it on a family hauler. Filling up takes a few minutes though, so that wouldn’t bother me.
I should have said quarter of a tank to make it more comparable. This is one of the things i didn’t get either and was worried about it when i made the plunge 3 years ago. What i didn’t realized was that while a gas car may take up to 10 min of my time to fuel up the ev takes seconds…i plug in when i get home…i get up in the morning, unplug and go. Now if i didn’t own a home and had no work charging available that would be a different story…much different.
Honestly, i hope US is smart enough not to watch from the sidelines. If we want to stay ahead we need to get involved in new tech.
Agreed. I’d be fine with that for a local commute. On a trip though, where you have a 2 year old wailing in the back seat after a couple hours and you just want to get to where you’re going, it’s not so easy when you have to plan your route around a charging network in addition to waiting for it to charge.